To each their own. I'm gay and like Men as Men. Beards, body hair -including happy trails, chest hair, arm pits, and pubes. Can't believe how many times I have to delete the trannies from messaging me, some coming back to tell me that I'm to discriminating against them, just cause I told them I'm not interested in getting to know guys that wears women's panties, stockings, bras, etc. One chick-$#*! reports me as being rude and discriminating. Grinder bans me for Zero Tolerance... and keeps my money for yearly subscription. Are they judging me for what I like and dont like? I'm so glad there are so many other gay Apps that I've discovered are for men meeting men. Guys4guys. Adam4adam... steve4steve... scuff. GrindHER wasn't for me.