After spending $20.00 for 2 dvds, i became suspicious of Zeus' e-mail responses, and checked this site. Since the reviews were bad as you can see, i notified visa about my probable loss. I was shocked when 3 weeks after my order the dvds appeared in my mailbox. The no frills packaging consisted of small jewel cases wrapped in packing. I played them immediately and they were both clear, sharp copies that had the TCM logo emblazoned about half way through. This is not a first class operation, and i won't tempt fate again, but this time i got my money's worth. Curmudgeon