Ordered a white mammoth mum dormant root and also a red mammoth dormant root from Gurneys. They came in the mail with ice and snow on the ground in Nebraska. The white dormant root had life in it. You could small leaves forming on it. The red dormant root was dead as a door nail. I have been planting plants 50 years and l know a dead plant when l see it. They shipped the plant dead. Called and they said they were out of stock. Could not hardly understand the person on the phone. (Bad English) anyway l asked for money back and she said No. So l am out about $21.00 dollars including shipping. Please do not buy from Gurneys as they are deffinitley a big rip off..