I ordered a medium and large fleece sweatshirt, hoping one of them would fit. I only opened the medium and it was shockingly enormous. I washed and dried it in heat, figuring it might shrink a lot. But I would still guess it to be XL OR XXL. It's just poorly put together with no effort to follow a woman's body shape. The arm holes are so huge it will impede work, and the head hole is so huge, too much heat escapes so it doesn't keep me warm. So there's no point opening the large sweatshirt.