Started off with just wanting a logo for a golf company. Someone tried to up sell me all kids of things I didn't need or already had. He didn't quite understand "I HAVE A WEBSITE". Weeks later the designs started to come in by way of some 2nd graders somewhere in the Country. Gave them a second round of ideas and they were worse than the first. Basically, the 1st time it was 7 all of the same designs with different fonts and colors and one gem of an idea with a golf ball in a crown? No idea of what that even is. Their name Logo Venture sounds great and I'm positive they have no one creative enough to have come up with that name. Asked for a refund, told we don't give refunds too bad we give you $#*! work, we can try again. They will not give you a refund and kiss your money good buy. You'll be one of the lucky ones that actually get a logo that you'd even consider putting on golf ball, that you'd hit in the woods.