Delacroix M.

My recommendstion is to stay away from Ladadate. The site uses credits and every site which uses credits will become an expensive, fruitless experience for you. Ladadate, the profiles and the messages cannot be trusted, in my opinion.

If you are curious about LadaDate, become a member, try it, experience it, get your own opinion, which is much better than to trust this review.

Note that I have not interacted with anyone on Ladadate. I became a member in my attempt to find out if one user was a fake or not. In my expedition, I found a few more profiles which I now have been trying to decide how real they are.

The first user - call her "Bella" now - I discovered has five profiles over four other other sites as well, at least the photos and the first name tell me it is the same on each, plus an Instagram account. The age is the same on each site, but a few details are different, plus the age is off by seven years on one. I first became a member on another site, call it "LB," and Bella on LB soon began to send me messages and intensly express how interesting I was and wanted my attention and my response to her messages. I could not reply since I had no credits. I wanted to find out how real Bella was so I searched online for photos and that led me to Ladadate.

By chance I found her photos on three other sites as well, plus on Instagram. All are "verified" including the profile with a seven year age difference. Which ones are real and honest of the six profiles?All? One? None? I am sure Instagram Bella is 100% real of these. Apart from LB Bella none of the others seem to recognize me even though I use the same photo and profile text. I also follow Instagram Bella and like her photos, but she makes no hint at all that I am the same dude she so intensly wanted to have messages from. Wouldn't Instagram Bella be happy now? I also spent a few hours composing a message to her on LB which would fit in three-four chat posts, since that would be more credit efficient (i.e., cheaper 2 vs 10) than sending a so called email. In her reply to that she said she would read it although it was "copied and pasted."

On LadaDate I have found more profiles which are at other sites too, and on at least one-two other sites some of them are eager to get my attention, but none of them accknowledge the fact that they recognize me from those other sites, where I have the same photos, and have had the same name, nor do they call me by my corrct name, even though I have given it to them earlier.

Speaking of names, I have had a serious presentation on LadaDate, but after so many recieved messages which reveal that none of the senders have read or may not even have visited my profile and seen my photos, I began to change my profile to something which made little sense. I changed the name I used for instance. I've used my real name, my real email address and other nonsense names/profile tags. Now I am using a female name. Noone cares, noone reacts. I changed the name two days ago, May 31 or June 1, never used it before, but I opened an unread message from May 19, which opened with the name I use now. I also opened another unread message from either April or May which also greeted me with this new name. So, I conclude that there is a robot which automatically change names sometimes. I wonder if those two messsges greeted me with the tag I used at the time they were sent, before the name changed?

Even the profile who uses photos of a woman who has many photos online, pornographic and more commercial, and an Instagram account does not recognize her own name on my profile, which I have as a tag on it now, to see if there would be any reaction. I have interacted with the same photos on LB and sent a message to the real person on Instagram asking if someone used her photos, but as expected I have not recieved an answer to that.

Some messages have contained names of other recipients and also an unchanged template place for name or country. Other messages have contained complete templates, not only one, but several after each other, put together into one long message, in Ukranian usually, with a short paragraph in English at the bottom.

Several messsges tell me that the sender and I have had frequent communication when in fact there has been none at all, and many more ask me why we do not talk anymore, even though we have not talked at all, ever.

I have sometimes recieved the SAME MESSAGE FROM DIFFERENT PROFILES, and a topic is covered by more than one profile at the same time, like the topic of Caesar and Cleopatra. At least two profiles sent me messsges on the same day or day after the other, with this topic. The words were different, but the subject was the same. What are the chances? No, I think there is foul play here.

It is very ANNOYING TO GET SPAMMED by messages from profiles which send the same message several times in a row, and which also contain the same photo, or the same photo but with another message. All messages are impersonal and noone have read my profile. Many are so impressed by it although I have nothing or nonsense on it!

As other reviewers have experienced, I also get some messages at the same time.

LADADATE CANNOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY when all of this is going on, and how serious are the real women (if there are any) behind the profile? There are so many sexually explicit messages and several nude photos, showing breasts and spread legs with female genitalia showing, but no head, no face, so those can be of any woman online. I have not checked, but know that there is a simple way of searching for photos, some may take an extra effort of finding. Not all can be found, but many.

Several profiles tell me that they either have a large house where I live, that they are in my country, or are going to it, or imply something along the same line. What are the chances?

You know, I am curious. I may purchase 20 credits for 2.99 (regular price is 12.99), to answer a few of the profiles. Of many, many profiles which have spammed me, there is only one -only one - which seem to have had a look at my profile. I may reply to her, but will wait for a while longer, to see in which direction the messages go.

Stay away from Ladadate. There is nothing here worth your time, your money. Find a real dating site which do not use credits instead. Find a site which offer you free messsging and chatting and more for a set amount per month, a subscription, but make sure that it is possible to renew each month, not each quarter or six months or year. That will make it much more cost efficient for you than purchasing credits, to chat with someone who has sent you impersonal templates and you will need to have sent a certain number of messages before you can even request contact details, and then you cannot be sure of getting them. Many reviewers have commented on that - lots of credits, wasted real money, many messages, no delivery.

The comment from the site in question is this: "There is too many incorrect statements here to reply to them all." I'm going to update this review with that statement in mind.

If you want to see many naked bodies and body parts, experience pornographic content and try to meet someone for sex, then this site is for you. If you are curious about the site, become a member, experience it to get your own view of it. Read the documentation.

While the review below is of course based on my own experience, this is my view and it may be different from what is actually true, I may be wrong about some details, it may differ from other reviewers and FuB may have other opinons. (Update: My review may be wrong about some details, it may differ from other reviers and FuB MAY HAVE OTHER OPINIONS.)

I was curious, that was my first reason for joining it. My second reason was very serious and sincere and honest, and I discovered it is too much so; finding Love. It could be possible on a site like this, but highly unlikely, but since Love could be anywhere, I saw it as one possible place for it so the door was open - you never know. I noticed quickly that I was malplaced.

It was sometime in the autumn of 2022 that I became a member. I was first using the site for free. Being a free member limits the way to interact with other users, of course. Basically, you can only look at the content and like it, as you know how to do from other social media. (Update: Incorrect statements in this paragraph or not, this is my personal experience.)

You will recieve many so called Icebreakers. Those are randomly sent to you from other users, and sent very often. You will also see that these users visit your profile... (Update: Incorrect statement in this paragraph or not, this is my persona view and experience.)

If you do not want these Icebreakers, click on the option to cancel them. (Update: I followed instructions on the site on how to do that, and the icebreakers ceased. See also the next paragraph.)

In January I decided that I wanted to pay to be able to experience more of the site and also to see what the Icebreakers were about. I discovered that they were very impersonal and lo and behold, after I had opted to not recieve or send Icebreakers, not only did I not recieve them, but the visits also stopped. I could now respond to profiles which had sent Icebreakers, but there was no interest at all, only total ignorance. (Update: correct statement from my own experience.) I suspect that the Icebreakers are not there to mainly show interest from someone, but they are there to lure you into paying for a subscription. (Update: It may be an incorrect statement, but that is a statement which desribes how it appears, and as I wrote "I suspect" which can be a correct or incorrect suspicion.) Be aware of the Icebreakers and how they seem to be used before you decide if you want to pay for the site or not.

While I was a paying user I interacted with some profiles. Some were using OnlyFans photos and others of Porn-Celebreties. Were the person behind those photos a man or woman? I will never know, but I know the photos were borrowed. (Update: I found the photos online when I searched for them. Saying "I know" may be incorrect; it is better to say "I am sure" instead, since I doubt that the OnlyFans user and the particular porn star were members. Of course, many of them can be on the site, but I am sure the photos I found were borrowed. I could have reported them of course, but since there are so many, I did not and do not bother about that.) One I found out much too late that "she" was using photos of Jia Lissa, even after I had already come across Jia Lissa earlier. (Update: I do not remember now if I had found her photos on the site by a another profile also or just recently on another dating site.) I'm the Court Jester. I hope I amused the person behind the profile for a few weeks. These fakes violated paragraph F under 4.Terms of Use. (Update: "'Impersonations'... you will not... misrepresent your identity.")

Many users have over 1000 profiles on their contact list, some even over 4000. (Update: True statement, check profiles.) That is alright of course, everyone is free to add as many or as few contacts they want. It raises the question of how serious they are when they have hundreds of contacts. It is unrealistic for them to interact with each one. It is instead followers or fans, who just follow the user to see when new content is up. (Update: Incorrect or not, "this is my view and it may be different from what is actually true".) I don't think the followers can expect any interaction which leads somewhere, not even a reply to a greeting. I personally do not want that quantity. I prefer quality, and I am reluctant to follow anyone with that many contacts, and I have unfollowed profiles who have been "collectors" and also unfollowed profiles who has no interest in me.

Before January was over I cancelled the subscription, but changed my mind. I tried to pay, but my card was rejected. I tried several times, and with another card too, but both were rejected each time. I asked for support, and was told that one card did not work because the bank did not allow a purchase on this site. That was no problem for me, I understood that and respected it of course. The other card worked, I had used it before, but this time, even if the fee was covered, it did not work. I tried several times, asked for support and was told that if it continued to be rejected it would get blocked and I could no longer use it, so I stopped trying. (Update: My own experience and from my point of view it is correct, it happened as stated.)

I became a user of the free service again...until some time in April when I tried again.

I tried once, but it didn't work, so I tried a second time and it worked and I became an active user again.

A few days later I NOTICED ON MY BANK ACCOUNT THAT I HAD BEEN CHARGED TWICE. (Update: Correct statement. I could show you my bank account but will not do that.)

Of course I asked Support why that was. It was because I had another account and had payed for that too! I NEVER CREATED A SECOND PROFILE AND NEVER PAYED FOR THAT only for the account I already had. (Update: This is correct.)

BE AWARE that this site can create a profile under your name automatically for some reason and charge you for it. That is what happened to me; one auto-generated profile and one unauthorized charge. I was never offered a chance to accept or ignore that second profile, nor for the charge. (Update: Since I did not create a second profile this paragraph is correct, but with an adjustment from "can" to "appears to".)

The good thing is that after I had contacted Support about this second profile and charge, they told me they would re-fund that second charge and that the second profile is deleted. (I have now been refunded for that.) (Update: The paragraph is true.)

IT COULD END HERE WITH THOSE GOOD WORDS. However...I noticed that I had another mysterious $1 charged from this Site. What? Why? (Update: This is correct.)

It took me two emails to have that explained.

In the first, I was told

"You had two active profiles.
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We have deleted the profile... and refunded the last charge...
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Please be aware when purchasing trials, as it the same mistake is made no refund will be made."

Nowhere in that is the mysterious $1 explained.

In the second the explanation was:

"You clicked on an offer for a trial of [another site].
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We refunded you the re-billing of $39.99 since you did not cancel during the one day trial period.
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The trial amount of $1 will not be refunded. Your membership was cancelled and now expired."

I NEVER KNOWINGLY NOR WILLINGLY clicked anywhere to accept that offer to try that other site. I was never offered a chance to accept or ignore that offer. (Update: This is a true experience.)

Several times an advertisement pops up on FuB which forces you to click it away on the X on the upper right corner. (Update: Incorrect or not, this is my experience.) If I have been charged $1 it means that I have touched the advertisement and been charged automatically when touching the screen when handling the phone when this advert is up - or accidentally touching the add when aiming on the X. No indication of that a charge is about to take place comes up. THIS IS VERY DISHONEST. I was not in control of that transaction. It is almost like theft. It would be, if nothing was given in return. (Update: Since I did not authorize a $1 charge, and there were no notification about it, it appears to have been automatic and dishonest. Again, my experience and opinion.)

THE ONLY RIGHT THING TO DO FOR YOU IS TO STAY AWAY FROM FuB. Touch yourself instead of the screen. Find sex somewhere else. Do not pay to find it here. BE AWARE OF THE AUTOMATIC CHARGES AND AUTO-GENERATED PROFILES under your name. (Update: Whether correct or incorrect, as I described above, my experience is that it it was automatic and auto-generated.) Further, you cannot be sure of how serious a profile is, if he photos are of the person you interact with or "borrowed." Also, as you learned above, many users have over 1000 profiles on their contact list and that is an indication of a less serious user, at least when it comes to interactions. (Update: Incorrect paragraph or not, this is my opinion.)

FuB is the worst site when it comes to service and honesty. (Update: Wheather correct or incorrect, that is my personal experience when dealing with FuB.) They were not honest when both a profile and a charge on my credit card was automatic. (Update: Since I did not control it, it must have been automatic and auto-generated and thus not honest.) I was not in control of that - it just happened. They should make precautions to prevent uncontrolled charges. (Update: Since what I described above happened without my active choices and control and there were no notifications, it appears that it was automatic and dishonest. Incorrect or not, this is my experience.)

(Due to a mishap on my end this review was never published on Feb.28. Below follows the original with parts added/edited after further experience with Livebeam...)

While the review below is of course based on my own experience, this is my view and it may be different from what is actually true, I may be wrong about some details, it may differ from other reviewers and Livebeam may have other opinons.

If you are curious about the site, become a member, experience Livebeam to get your own view of it. Before you decide anything, know that Livebeam rewards loyal customers with free bonus credits on purchases. Be also aware of the offer to become a "Trusted User/Content Creator" and the possibillity of using the service for free and making money while you stream. Contact Livebeam for more information about that. Read also all the provided documentation.

"Livebeam is an entertainment service offered for amusement purposes." That is important to know. It is also important to know that there are profiles which are only puppets, i.e., they are there to encourage you to experience and use Livebeam and they are only a part of the service, and not real, and probably controlled by more than one person. They also "serve to sample User activities and communications to ensure compliance with these Terms [of Use]." It is difficult to tell a real person's profile from a puppet's. Also, Livebeam is not a dating site. You must also know, that to be able to fully use the features on Livebeam for amusement and entertainment, you must purchase credits, Livebeam's currency, which you must use to be able to actively communicate by the site's "email" service and chat, for example.

Unless you are considering to become a Content Creator, my advise is to stay away from Livebeam. Livebeam is only a fantasy, an expensive fantasy world, an online dream world. The puppets and the credits, can make your experience on the platform, expensive, miserable and lonely, and puppets can make you believe they are real and honest and make you purchase and spend unnecessary credits.

Each "email" you send will cost you 10 credits for the first, then 30 for each following. REMEMBER, CREDITS ARE YOUR REAL MONEY. Each recieved "email" requires credits to open. The first is free to open, but every following will cost you 10 credits if you want to open it to read it. Further, each attached photo and video clip also require additional credits to open. Chatting is charged 2 credits per minute, plus, if you send or want to open photos and video clips, more credits are required. You may get messages from puppets. You cannot tell if a message is from a puppet or a real person. Replying to puppets and opening attachments will waste credits. Note that it is also possible to recieve automated messages, "ice breakers," from Trusted Users/Content Creators, and your profile has been randomly selected and the same message is sent to a number of other profiles as well. Replying to these could also waste credits.

When only using the free festures, all you can do is to browse through profiles, recieve chats/"emails," like photos, send a wink, follow a profile and watch streams, which are usually by the same (during my time on LB) few streamers from China or Ukraine (nothing more in that statement than a fact), some say nothing at all, replying with a few words in an open chat. Many are asking for credits through a "gift", credits they can monetize, to fulfill a goal they have, e.g., a trip or a dress. I was thinking about giving my 20 complimentary credits (see below) to a streamer, but the cheapest "gift" I have been able to find is 21 credits.

Livebeam's "First of this or that is Free" bait and other free functions, mean, in my personal opinion, nothing at all. The 20 complimentary credits you get for signing up, to try the site, and the "special offer" for the next 20 credits for €2.99 instead of €9.99 is a marketing trick. It looks really good, but would you really buy 20 credits for €9.99 in the first place? 20 credits give you for example 10 minutes of chatting or two emails opened. Ask yourself first if it is worth it and how much more you are willing to pay for the very limited time you have to actively interact with someone, and think about if 20 credits are enough to try the site. I have been alot on the site for a few weeks. I used my 20 complimentary credits to open and reply to an "email" and, while I asked not to be sent one via that feature, I still recieved a reply which I cannot open. In my opinion, you will get nowhere with 20 credits and you are lured into purchasing 20 more. Then to be able to keep up a conversation to get to know someone you need to purchase even more credits again. And again.

"Unlimited chatting" is claimed to be possible. This is not entierly true, false marketing in my opinion. You are of course limited by your budget, your bank account. When it runs out you can no longer communicate as you would want to. You are back where you started, but without the complimentary credits and special offer. You are limited by the amount of credits you have left. You are limited by the choice you must make when you have been sent attachments. Do you want to open one or more or use the credits to send an "email" or chat? You are also limited to the number of men/women you can interact with, if you want a serious conversation. You are constrained by Livebeam's virtual currency. You are limited by the cost of everything and the choices you must make. The puppets limit your chances of using your credits on a real person. You are limited to chat with only one profile in order to get the most out of each credit spent. If you chat with two, your spending is doubled, and your enjoyment is halved.

Livebeam's requirement of needing credits to communicate, makes it impossible to really get to know someone and make a friend through frequent long, deep, sometimes intimate, and serious conversations. It is unrealistic - unless you have a huge pile of money in your vault. The puppets add their fantasy to this unrealistic experience - and they use everything for free. Most, if not all, Trusted Users seem to be using the service for free as well.

You should know that while THE CREDIT SYSTEM IS EXPENSIVE IT IS ALSO UNFAIR. If anyone can defend it and convince me otherwise, I will change my mind. It favours only those with a large amount of money who can purchase credits without thinking about this month's rent, food, gasoline... It is unfair toward all real users who cannot get a reply, and toward all creditless users who can not interact and when asked "why don't you reply," "have you found another," "Am I ugly?," "Am I not beautiful," "I miss you", "am I not worthy," "did I do something wrong" and in the silence forced upon them by the lack of credits, they can most likely become rude in the eyes of the active users, some seem to become somewhat frustrated about the silence. One exclaimed, in caps, "You are killing me!" It is also unfair when active users seem to question their own worth and beauty due to the credit system used by various sites when they do not get responses. Unless you do not want to purchase credits, do not even like any photo or post or wink to a profile. If you do, you will get chat messages and emails which you will not be able to reply to, and that will lead to a seemingly poor image in the eye of the beholder. Several beholders gave up on me and one blocked me, when I could not interact properly. Unfair toward me and toward them who deserved replies.

Be aware that few, if any, of the profiles you interact with will want to move to other means of communicating. Puppets definately will not do it. Trusted Users may be restricted by Livebeam and not be allowed to do it. For other profiles, Livebeam explains that this is for safety reasons, and that each person decides for him/herself when he or she is ready to do so, which is respected of course. BUT - note that there are reviwers who comment that noone has been willing to move away from Livebeam, and I have the same experience both from LB and from other credit sites. Noone wanted to move away from it, not even accepting my email or any suggestion of other means to communicate for free, unrestricted and unlimited, only giving excuses of why staying on the site is better for them. This reluctance to move a friendship away from the site open suspicions and claims that most profiles you interact with are paid, and probably earn some percentage of all credits you put on the time with them (e.g., chatting by the minute on Livebeam and to open photos) to create a cozy time for you as entertainment. These profiles are then paid to tell you what you want to hear - until you want more than a cozy time on the site. Then you will most likely hear excuses and reasons to why it is better to stay on the site. On Livebeam, reluctant profiles are most likely puppets and perhaps also many Trusted Users. In my own experience (not only from Livebeam) puppets have been abundant and with hind sight and more insight into services like this, it seems that I have only interacted with puppets or constrained users, with perhaps a few exceptions. Do not have any hopes or expectations of ever meeting someone you interact with on Livebeam in the physical world.

There is also a credit limit with one profile you must reach until you can even request contact details - which is, again, unfair. I think it is 3000 credits. Suppose you chat with one profile and you either find out after 2900 credits that this is a puppet or that you are not compatible. How much real money have you wasted? Are you going to try again from zero with another? Or pursue another on which you have already spent 500 on? This is crazy, a stupid system. Know also that one profile told me that my contact details would be censored should I send them. On non-credit sites, users have spontanously sent me their WhatsApp number. Why does that not happen on credit sites? Probably because that makes them lose income.

The first three paragraphs under "About Us" contain statements which I personally believe are not entirely true. You cannot "spend time" and "learn something about other cultures" and there is no "quality time" when it at the same time can drain your bank account, and is it really a "cozy place" you can "dive into for a few hours" when you cannot interact due to the high cost it will be to do so, or when all you can do is to browse and use the few free features, and in return you get several chats which you cannot reply to and other messages you cannot open and you cannot open attachments. It makes at least me feel bad when that makes me seem as if I igonore someone and am rude when I am unable to reply. Then often one or more chats follow from a member and in some the question "why don't you reply" is implied when they certainly must know about the limitation credits create. Is it right to play with someone's feelings of guilt in order to sell credits? I do not think it is. Noone seems to understand what role credits play when interacting/communicating. It raises the question if this is designed to lure you to buy credits - and you become a Court Jester, when you buy credits and unknowingly, in your sincerity embarrass yourself with private and intimate conversations. You now entertain the puppets, not yourself in your honest efforts to fulfill a dream. If the sending member is not aware of how limited I and many others are by credits and how expensive it is to reply, then the system of credits (Livebeam here) gives me and my face a very bad name, when I seem uninterested and that I seem to ignore someone. Of course, I could leave the site at any time, to escape from it all. I have also stated on my profile clearly that I cannot reply nor open attachments. That is obviously ignored by most members and if they ignore it, or are puppets or constrained Trusted Users, it is not my problem, but since I have a heart I still feel bad about and guilty for not being able to reply. I would like to reply to everyone who sends a message to me.

Once a profile asked me in the first chat message, "why don't men answer me, am I not beautiful?" Was this a puppet trying to lure me into buying credits or was it a sincere question from a real woman? I wanted to reply and explain why I believe there are no answers and that she is beautiful. If her concern is sincere, then Livebeam's system of credits is part to blame, when more men than I cannot reply because we have no credits, and no responses to her messages seem to make her feel inadequate and make her doubt if she is beautiful. It is not right, it is unfair.

Lightbeam should inform all users about how the credits work and that replies to sent chats and emails cannot be expected and while thou "shall not stalk or... harrass any person" is stated under 4.2 (Terms of Use) so should "thou shall not expect a reply, or ask why you do not get any" be stated "because your possible interlocutor may not have credits or is restricted by them and cannot or do not wish to reply to your chat message or email. Unanswered messages do not mean that you have done anything wrong, that you are not beautiful and not that you are not worthy."

Another profile sent a third message to me beginning with caps saying that I am breaking her heart because I have not replied. That is entirely because of the credits. Was she serious, or was it a trick to make me feel guilty and buy credits? I don't know. As far as I know, I am a heartbreaker to her. Then someone tells me "It's a pity that I haven't received any messages from you. What's stopping you?" If this person reads my profile, the answer is there. This person should be aware of how the credits work, since it is a verified and appearently a Trusted User.

One profile blocked me partly because I could not answer her several messages, and partly probably because she may have become disturbed by my visits to her profile and she had enough of that type of attention I gave her, and not the attention she wanted. As I understand it, a Trusted User must explain the block, but she didn't.

Before you consider becoming a Livebeam member, think about the puppets and that many messages could be baits for you to buy credits, such as those examples I mentioned above.

No, it is not cozy, and as long as Livebeam uses decieving puppets and credits it can never live up to their words about it being a cozy place, quality time and so on. To learn something and to make friends requires time and effort, and it requires interaction with more than one person, a real person, not puppets, and not restricted Trusted Users. On Livebeam time and your effort to interact and communicate is measured in credits and CREDITS ARE YOUR MONEY. "We belive that meaningful communication is key" is stated on a comment on a social media platform. Without using alot of credits, meaningful communication is not really possible. The "key" you need for that is credits.

Livebeam defends their system of credits by explaining that the "company cannot afford to provide services on any other basis than the prepaid one." Their service toward the members are financed by the prepaid system and not by a subscription (which also is a prepaid system), to keep a high standard and same "high quality support services" for all members around the clock through different departments, and the "prices are quite reasonable with respect to the service you receive." In addition to good service, Livebeam also claim that, for the price, you also get what they say are advantages, like verified members (so you know a member is real) that you are in control over your payments, your searches, there is "strict adherence to the terms of legislation, which guarantees the member's safety from inadequate individuals." There is nothing unique about any of that. Other sites claim similar advantages.

Livebeam has high ambitions for Customer service and suggests they have service of high quality. However, some reviewers feel that Livebeam has not been able to live up to the high-quality service they claim to give. In particular it seems very difficult to delete the profile and leave Livebeam. I have been in contact with Customer Service for various reasons. The second time it worked well. I found an inappropriate photo and Livebeam notified me that the user was removed, and I was rewarded 50 credits. Very good and many thanks for that. I did not expect that. I have not checked, but I trust Livebeam's words here that the user was removed. The first issue from Feb.27 is still not resolved on Mar.19. A photo with an inserted nude woman is still up. After I notified Support the user was notified, but a few days later I checked and the photo was still up. I notified Livebeam, who on Mar.4 replied that it "appears that technically, this photo cannot be removed right now. But we have made sure that the member will not be able to publish such photos anymore." In other cases where I have contacted other sites' support, Livebeam has answered although "we are not connected with the listed sites, I'm responsible only for Livebeam." In the relevant email to Livebeam I made no references to other sites. The reply was sent from an email with the address of one of the other sites. It appears both from replies I have recieved and from having checked replies on reviews on other sites, that support is the same for "the listed sites." (Ref. My other review 3/6. That review was also on another review site, and was flagged by Livebeam, "because they don't think it's based on a genuine experience." I have since deleted it because that site only allowed one review per company.) On a request from 3/3 on another Livebeam type of site, I still have not recieved a reply (but see Update below). My experience with Livebeam's support/high quality customer service has been confusing and it has not lived up to the level of service expected and also with the expensive credit system, the organization should be much better coordinated and aware, and service and efficency and competence should be much higher, as I also pointed out in my correspondance. UPDATE MAR.17: The request from 3/3 (not LB) was finally resolved on 3/17. I recieved missing Complimentary Credits and comp credits on top of that as an appology for the poor service I had recieved. On 3/16 Livebeam sent an appology and an explanation to why there had been such poor service and confusion, and they also gave me credits as a "bug hunter reward."

Further, Livebeam's opinion is that the members are not overcharged when they pay for only what they put the credits on. However, is that true? I don't think so. The members pay an amount for a certain number of credits, which then are used as a currency on the site. You will pay for the credits, not for services you use, and since you do not get a refund for unused credits, already at that moment when you buy them it is overcharging. It is overcharging when you spend credits on puppets. It is overcharging when you are required to use credits for virtually everything you do, and when the cost of opening an attachment cost you 10 or 50 credits, equivalent to 5 or 25 minutes of chatting, which is also overcharging, because when you pay per minute, you are also paying for the time it takes you to type something. You are being charged for that. (Remember the special offer of 20 credits for €2.99 instead of €9.99? Had you bought 20 credits for €9.99 opening a photo would cost you about €5. Then you could chat for almost 5 minutes, but what if you type slowly or a longer message? Count how many credits or Euro that is per minute, word or sentence, then decide if you think it is overcharging or not, and if you are willing to loose money on those seconds you use to type something. If you type for over 5 minutes, then you cannot send the message when you are done. That is credits, your money, down the drain.) If you open an attached photo by mistake, you are charged automatically, which is overcharging. (I wasted credits on such a mistake. I did not get a refund, see my review from Mar. 6. Also, there can be photos attached which can already be found on a profile. Attachments are blurred so you cannot see them clearly of course. Opening them is a waste of credits. You can also find attached photos on e.g., Instagram for free. Opening those attachments is a waste of credits.) I rarely opened attachments after my mistake. With automatic charges you are not in control over what you want to put your credits on. In my correspondance with LB support I suggested improvements here.

The puppets are a part of the service and the interaction with them is for "your entertainment and amusement" and the "purpose of these types of profiles is to stimulate conversation with Users and encourage further and broader participation in all of Livebeam services." I.e., buy more credits to participate. (I note that on a site which uses credits I get more messages and visits from women than on a subscription site, even if my profile contains nothing. I suspect that credit sites are designed to tempt you to pay by doing this. Seems to be the same on Livebeam. I am a member on a few subscription sites, but without a subscription. As I do here, I browse profiles and like photos or profiles, all I can do, but I get few if any messages or visitors there (and noone has ever asked "why don't you reply?") compared to what happens here and other credit sites.)

Laywers, doctors, models... are abundant on Livebeam and all look very attractive, and the English on each profile is very good, appearently not automatically translated.

I have found some suspicious profiles. One was first a "professional model," but after a profile photo change and a new profile presentation, she was no longer a model. Nor was she about to leave the site, as was stated in the first message to me from this profile (a false statement which is a violation of Terms of use §4.4). There is also a photo of a woman (her?) watching the Superbowl, but it shows SB 51, not 57, so that post is false (and thus also a violation of Terms of use §4.4). This profile has also obviously appeared under another name earlier than its current. It is or has been a face for Livebeam on advertisements.

Two other profiles have different photos and names, but the presentation text on both are exactly the same, with one short sentence added on one. Perhaps a template has been used? Either one or both are fake. I do not think both are real. Both appear to be "Trusted Users" and verified users (as all other profiles I see seem to be). One or both or all three above may have slipped through the "verified" stage. They could be puppets too.

I have found LB profiles with accounts on other sites as well. It is not a problem, and it is of course allowed. One charachter has 5 profiles on 4 sites. Let's call her "Bella" now. Bella on Livebeam, who is also a face on LB abvertisements, has been very eager to get my attention, but none of the other four Bellas seem to recognize me, eventhough I use the same name and have the same photos on all sites. Further, some data is inconsistent between the sites, and on one even the age is off by 7 years, and as the other four, this is also verified, "confirmed" as that site states. I notified Livebeam about this suspicious character, but was told it is a verified user on Livebeam. I have my doubts. I could contact this user myself for answers, but I must waste credits to find out the truth, and I will not do that. I found Bella on Instagram too. The five profiles use the same first name and photos as Instagram Bella. The LB Bella has been so eager to get my attention so I was thinking that all the other Bellas would be happy to see me. (I use the same photos on Instagram, but have a different name.) One Bella sends messages to me on another site and would for sure know me from Livebeam and be happy to see me there too. There is no sign of recognition from any of the non-LB Bellas. I wonder if the Instagram Bella has been paid to have her name and photos and clips on these sites and on ads for Livebeam... and is completely unaware of what is going on. I also wonder how many other men the non-Instagram Bellas send the same messages as I have recieved too. UPDATE 3/25 I decided to reach out to Livebeam Bella and explain why I had not replied. It turned out that I wasted over an hour, maybe over two in total, to compose a message which would fit in chat messages limited to a number of characters in each post. It became four chat messsges long, for 2 credits. (I could have sent it in an email for 10 instead.) The reply I recieved was "yes, I will read everything now, even knowing that your message was simply copied" so I wonder how fair Bella is in that statement and I think I must thank Livebeam too for putting that label on me because of this stupid credit system. Thank you for WASTING MY CREDITS AND TIME FOR NOTHING. THANKS. I should have avoided this profile as I first intended to do.

So, Livebeam please explain to her and tell her to appologize to me for her being so incredibly wrong and unfair and also maybe you could appologize to me for wasting my time and credits only to be accused of being a copy cat? It will most likely never happen, but profiles you use as faces on advertisements should have better manners than what Bella showed me and you should reprimand her. Faces should also have a better understanding about how the credit system works. She is not fit to be one of the faces - but on the other hand, when it is already a questionable site, then it probably does not matter. Bella certainly now gives more fuel to the suspicions and negative feedback. UPDATE Bella sent an email later, in which I presume she has replied to my message, but she, as so many others, ignored my clear post on the profile about that I cannot open them, it is too expensive to do, that they should send chat messages instead. The content will be forever unknown to me.

Two other profiles on Livebeam have accounts on two other sites as well. Nothing wrong in that, but appearently, they are using the name and photo of Instagram accounts. I have reached out to the Instagram users, but as was expected I was blocked/ignored there. One of them, also very eager to communicate with me, and I have interacted with it on LB, does not recognize me on another site and appearently not on Instagram. Seems I wasted credits again. Since I cannot get a verification through Instagram, I cannot get further and will find no truth on this issue. It makes at least me doubt the verification process and if there really is one. I am sure that I will not get honest answers from the source I interacted with. I was told when asking "But I'm not use apps" (which is a very common excuse when a profile wants to stay) and I expected to hear exactly that. (Of course it could be for security reasons, but fakes use the excuse too and in this case I suspect the latter, since the Instagram profile is very public, and on other sites there are sexually explicit photos, with name of the model, so she could more easily be stalked on Instagram than by someone offering her to leave this forum.)

I also interacted with "Paola" on Livebeam. On another site (Latinfeels), I found the same "Paola," at least the photos told me it was. I used the same name and photo on both sites. That other Paola did not indicate in any way that she knew me from LB, nor did the LB Paola indicate that she knew about me on the other site. I said goodbye. In LB Paola's attempts to get back to me she used two completely wrong and different names plus my LB name once, although she (?) knew my real first name. The other Paola did not like that I did not send any messages. I couldn't, I had no credits. I thought she would understand that we were communicating on LB, and would then know about credits. The last chat message I got from her was "I think you have not been successful in love for a simple reason, do you want to know what it is?" Seemed to me that I was successful with Livebeam Paola - until I understood for sure that there were two different Paolas using photos of the same girl. Does that girl on the photos know how her face and body is being used? I can add to this that both Paolas are verified users - how did that happen? How many men have been fooled by them? How can both be verified? Or is it actually only one Paola who is really stupid?

A thought that comes to mind about Bella, Paola and several others are that they are not real. They appear to be fake, as you have surely understood, and maybe the real person on the photos have sold rights to a company to use name and photos in this manner and that company gives them an amount each month based on how many credits which have been used on them? I leave this question open since I cannot answer, but maybe someone will someday.

It appears that credits also finance the verification process, but it seems that this process is extremely flawed, if even existing, and it must be totally revised. With the expensive credits, it should work perfectly. Livebeam (and other sites) cannot be trusted when they claim to have this process operational. One verified user on Livebeam told me that she had no other account when I asked since I had found her photos on another site. That account was also verified. If both are verified, both must be real, but then she is lying. They can also both be fake. Only one can be real, but which one? Or are both fake? Both sites have a verification process... Neither site can be trusted.

In my orginal review (Feb.28) I stated that "Livebeam may have potential," but I am not so sure anymore. After my experience with support and finding suspicious characters, it seems that Livebeam cannot be trusted.

MY ADVICE IS TO STAY AWAY FROM LIVEBEAM and all other sites which use credits, and my advice to active users is learn how important credits are for communication and how expensive credits are and tell the operator that it is an unfair system and you would like to see a change. Or just leave. That is much better. Then these credit sites will hopefully lose clients and go out of buisness...

In my opinon the system of using credits must change completely, to for example, a subscription charge. The puppets must be removed or changed, or it must be stated on a profile if it is a monitor (but then the purpose they serve to monitor behaviour will be undermined).

The puppets create an uncertainty, they make it difficult to trust other profiles. The puppets' profiles and words are empty and mean nothing. They create a facade, no substance, and make Livebeam more expensive than it has to be. I feel that the usage of puppets is a deception and it is unfair toward the real persons who are honest, serious and sincere to use them. The real persons come to Livebeam with expectations and hopes to meet other real persons, to be entertained and amused by real persons, to create real experiences and real friendships, with persons who really would like that too, and many come to make a hope and a dream come true. Real people want to share a cozy quality time together without any puppets and constraints. In my opinion Livebeam's service is too expensive to use and the site does not live up to their ambition of being an amusing, cozy place. LIVEBEAM IS UNFAIR, EXPENSIVE AND FAILS COMPLETELY.