I bought some large canvas stretchers from them looking to save some money. I have been stretching canvases for overt 50 years and am an expert. These cheap chinese made stretchers broke, warped and bent. They refused to refund me, let me ship them bqck or even give me credit because ''you took too long to tell us''. As if you stretch big canvases the second you get them. You better know what you are getting before you buy from the, This was the first and LAST time for me. You guys suck Jerry's Artarama! And who would call themselves that silly name in the forst place. Sounds like a clown house.