CharmDate

Answer: My verdict after a year of using Charmdate: it's total fraud! I had been in a close contact with many girls for a year until I finally left the site. Now I'm convinced that pretty much all of them were scammers. I had not met any of them! All of them suddenly came up with some kind of excuse in the last minute as to why they couldn't have a real meeting with me. Bullsh*t! It can't be a coincidence when I had 4 dates on http://j4Iove.com After using it for 3 months only. Can you explain the difference? There is just one realistic explanation: Charmdate women were fakes and scammers.

Answer: The question "Can I trust the site" is easy. The answer is no. The real question is "can I trust the girl" and that is harder to answer since there are some real women on the site. Here are some things to consider. Many men have signed up for tours or independent visits to meet a girl only to have the site call at the last moment and tell them they either have found someone else or decided they were not interested. By that time they already have their ticket and "tour" booked and paid for. We don't know if your girl is real or not and you might find yourself a "victim" of their fraud. Before you trust her, you need to be able to separate her from the site and confirm the relationship independent of the agency. There are ways of doing this. Ask her to send pictures that she has posted on her private web sites. Google them and make direct contact. I googled any picture of wome writing to me. Many were on VK.com, the equivalent of facebook. So I set up an account there and contacted the ladies. Most immediately blocked me. One who did not simply told me she would ONLY correspond with me on Charming date. You can also try to find a way to give her your phone number and ask her to call you collect. Most of the time your letters will be edited to prevent such information so you'd have to be creative. Tell her about a 2025 mile trip you took and fill out the rest of the telephone number with number of gas station stops meals eaten, people visited, etc etc. If you really want to you can call her, assuming you are actually talking to her and not a fake agent. Find out where she works. Call there and get her direct number. Try anything. But so long as you are only writing emails, you should assume little correspondence between the profile and the emails you are getting. Odds are if you are corresponding with a real woman, much of your correspondence has been "enhanced" or even written by the agency and you will have to start over getting to know her. Independent studies indicate that you have a higher chance of marrying a translator for the agency than you do of marrying the girl to whom you thought you were writing.

Answer: Do they get paid? Not in a conventional way set up in a western society. Charming Date, gets its women from "affiliates" in Ukraine. These "dating groups" go out and advertise for women, who are seeking western men. The site pays the "affiliates" money for each women's profile they get to use the site. I CANNOT definitely say that the affiliate groups are set up to pay the women. They feed them a lot of bullshit about how easy it is to marry a western man. In Ukraine, the average salary is about 200 bucks a month. A lot of these women love that country, but want a better life. The dating sites know this and use this as their leverage to get women to sign up. They really BELIEVE that someone is going to marry them. That is their dream and the dating sites tell them that the dream will never be realized if they are not exposed to a society (western) that can give them a better life. Not all of those women are scammer's. You have groups within the affiliated dating service group, that is filled with nothing but scammers. I am SURE that the leader of these groups ASK to be paid for each women they get to sign up.If they DO pay a woman, she is not getting hardly anything at all. A Ukrainian woman is not going to get rich advertising herself online at different dating sites. I would say she is lucky if she even gets 10% of a reply. And then that is eaten up by all the photo-shopping that is done to make them look more beautiful. She is stuck, she does not realize how hard it is to get her out of the Ukraine because the dating site will not ever tell her of the VISA restrictions that are attached to Ukrainian citizens when it comes to visiting the West. But the dating site is her only hope., so she stays with it not because of the little she may be getting, but because she believes that she will find a real husband from the west. To the dating sites, she is nothing but the product they advertise to make money off of, and some of the women have gotten hip to that. I have had a couple talk to me seriously about how they felt they were not being informed on how hard it is to marry a western man because of the restrictions on the average Ukrainian's VISA. The dating site WANTS you to fall in love with one, wants you to keep buying credits, spending money, and if you are communicating with a lady from one of the crooked affiliate sites, she will be encouraging you to keep writing, or will try to seduce you with words. A real lady does not do that, even in the sites. If you tell her the site is too high, she wants to know how much you pay. If you tell her you can only write her once a week, she will tell you that she will cherish each letter you send. If you are in a site that has video chat, you can SEE the very woman you are talking too, which Charming Date may have now. A true Ukrainian woman will introduce you to her family through the video chat, show you her brothers and sisters, because Ukrainians are all about family. They are proud of their families and want them to meet you. I have done this several times at another site and even send emails to them without the use of a site, but it costs them a lot of money to respond to you, to have what you send to them interpreted. CharmingDates plays this game two ways, they pimp the woman without her knowing how hard it will be to get this dream, and they scam you thinking you are just going to find a wife here just by a few chats or letters. You might, but you can bet you will be spending a lot of money to send and respond to letters. CharmingDate cheats on their chat feature by NOT giving you the full time you pay for, and they DO have women, who are members of the dating site, answering chat invitations. So, that should tell you something right there. Because there seem to be no restrictions or laws governing these crooked affiliate sites from Ukraine, this will not ever stop. But... there are a few sites out there that you can really meet some decent, nice, attractive and respectful women from Ukraine. After you have been around for awhile, you can smell a scam a mile away. A real Ukrainian woman will SURPRISE you with how friendly she is. She will SHOCK you with how humble she is. All she wants... is for you to be her friend and she HOPES, that it becomes more than that. There are many, many attractive women there. This I learned AFTER my first post here. But because there are so many, the men there take them for granted and will leave them in a minute. They are there, they are in Charming Date, but there is so many frauds and scammers there also, the dating site can easily get out of trouble by saying they have no policies at all governing the affiliates who sell them profiles of women they recruit. The site says "no scams", that is true for any society that has laws, but they do not get these women from a society based on that. So, it is easy for a woman and the company she works for, to scam the site, which I am sure... they know it. Good luck out there! Search the sites hard, there are some Ukrainian women that are really worth your time and attention. I am continuing to find out more and more about Ukraine. It is a very interesting place. It also seems that, the more you seem to want to know about their country, the more honest women are attracted to you. The more intelligent you act towards them, the more credible the women seem to get. It seems like a word goes around the country that says" this guy has a real interest in our country, he is worth being serious with" The truth be told, a lot of dudes, pay that little money to those women, and want nothing but virtual sex from them. That is how I believe the scammers got a foothold in the industry. The cry for immoral (smile). Everything you have read here is based on my personal opinion, on things I have learned while talking and dealing with women from Ukraine. When they were asking me about the unrest in America, about holidays, about how streets look like, you can assume... she is probably on the level. She will NOT EVER ask you for a DIME, nor will she send sob stories about someone in her family being sick. The true Ukrainian woman, for all her humbleness, is still a very PROUD woman. She may not have ANYTHING, but she will not ask anything from you! Personally... I think if you get a chance to get ahold of a true one? That Slavic woman is going to love you to death, no matter WHAT you look like... just have a decent heart and treat her correctly.

Answer: I flew to Kiev and found this site to be much of what others have said. The woman are paid. Local model agencies refer girls to this site to make extra money. One girl told me she made fifty per cent of what she brought in. When I surprised a couple of girls that I was in Kiev vacationing they were all of a sudden leaving Kiev on there own vacation. I found meeting girls in Kiev at bar/restaurant I was much better off. If you notice girls send you the same pictures just to build their tally and so on. If you stick to a letter a week and see where it goes from there it will keep your costs low if you want to keep investigating this site. But my recommendation is travel to Kiev during winter and Oddessa during summer and see what happens.