I've been in contact with a lovely girl for 9-10 months now and we're serious. Can I trust this site will not stop me or con me if I fly out to meet her at the airport? Can she fly to visit me?

asked by Ellis G. on 8/20/15

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Thumbnail of user wilburb21

The question "Can I trust the site" is easy. The answer is no.
The real question is "can I trust the girl" and that is harder to answer since there are some real women on the site. Here are some things to consider.
Many men have signed up for tours or independent visits to meet a girl only to have the site call at the last moment and tell them they either have found someone else or decided they were not interested. By that time they already have their ticket and "tour" booked and paid for. We don't know if your girl is real or not and you might find yourself a "victim" of their fraud. Before you trust her, you need to be able to separate her from the site and confirm the relationship independent of the agency. There are ways of doing this. Ask her to send pictures that she has posted on her private web sites. Google them and make direct contact. I googled any picture of wome writing to me. Many were on VK.com, the equivalent of facebook. So I set up an account there and contacted the ladies. Most immediately blocked me. One who did not simply told me she would ONLY correspond with me on Charming date. You can also try to find a way to give her your phone number and ask her to call you collect. Most of the time your letters will be edited to prevent such information so you'd have to be creative. Tell her about a 2025 mile trip you took and fill out the rest of the telephone number with number of gas station stops meals eaten, people visited, etc etc. If you really want to you can call her, assuming you are actually talking to her and not a fake agent. Find out where she works. Call there and get her direct number. Try anything. But so long as you are only writing emails, you should assume little correspondence between the profile and the emails you are getting. Odds are if you are corresponding with a real woman, much of your correspondence has been "enhanced" or even written by the agency and you will have to start over getting to know her. Independent studies indicate that you have a higher chance of marrying a translator for the agency than you do of marrying the girl to whom you thought you were writing.

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Thumbnail of user dg55

DO NOT TRUST THE SITE. I learned that my letters to my woman were written by someone else without her input. Letters were one sentence long so you would spend more money. I also learned from my woman that she never spoke to me on the phone calls. The translator answered my questions and comments without any input from the woman herself. I have been told by the woman to not believe anything that took place on Charmingdate.

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Thumbnail of user alejandrog3

The site is just one big con! You would be better off just going 2 Europe and try 2 meet some nice women, not sure about going 2 Ukraine but there are plenty of Russian/Ukraine women living in Prague ;) plus Prague is a beautiful City 2 visit and relatively cheap ;)

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Thumbnail of user bealb

Take it from someone who was supposedly "in love" with several women on that site, it is nothing but a damn scam. Now I know you are thinking, "but she seems so geniune", Yeah, she is coached to be geniune. If you have been in touch with her for the long length of time you say you have, you have spent THOUSANDS, there is where the "lovely" is.

I have heard of guys flying all the way to Ukraine, only to not even meet the woman they "thought" was "lovely". You need to test her sincerity by having someone else, contact her, and see how she responds to them. Remember, those women are not on there to please one man, nope, they have many guys they are talking too. The more money you spend, the sweeter they will sound. Your length of time, as for longevity of the relationship, lets her know you will SPEND to keep her company. The question you need to ask yourself "How many other guys does she have doing the exact same thing?"

It may SHOCK you, but hey, it is a lesson learned. CharmingDate is nothing but a house of scam. Filled with desperate women, from a war-torn nation, bring "pimped" by agencies, that get them to sign contracts, doing the agencies bidding. Think about that..."doing the agencies bidding". The women are contracted products, being pimped out to the world, strictly to take your money. There may be ONE or TWO who are honest, but even they are under contract. Contract to "be nice", "be sexy", "be agreeable" to anyone that writes to them. You could be a convict released from prison for 8 murders you committed. If you got money to pay, there will be several who will be ready to talk.

They will do anything, say anything, to get your money, and that is no lie. You need someone else, to contact this woman. If she is so sincere about you, she will not start another affair with another man, correct? At least not as deeply as the one you share, correct? Watch what she does! She will grease his $#*! down just like she probably has done you. I saw women, in their 20's, at the prime of their life, wanting to converse with guys that were in there 70's. C'mon man, don't let your heart fool you, Charming Date is crooked as they come, and they will steal the stink off $#*! if it could pay a light bill. They want their "products" to represent them as they are, but you are not supposed to find this out!

As a matter of fact, almost all of these web-sites, pimp the Ukrainian women more than ever now. They are desperate, they are alone, and they are crooked! It has really gotten worse since the war started. I knew about 4 women from there, for real, no dating agency. They just disappeared from the web. I think they joined one of the dating agencies, which do not want them to actually meet people for real. Can you imagine if those women DID get married? The agency would make NO money. Or put it this way, how may "Ukrainian Brides" have you met or seen here in this country, that came from a dating agency? Not very many!

Slow down your roll and be skeptical. Have someone else involve themselves with her. I know it sounds harsh because this is America, but over there... it is a whole different world brotha'! CharmingDate abuses it and pimps it. Real low life pieces of crap. All their women come from depressed countries, because no decent woman would ever sign up with them under the terms of their contract, which is simply "get out and ho' for us"!

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Thumbnail of user carld26

I personally have had 5 out of 5 negative experiences with this site and hhave completely avoided then. There is simply too much opportunity and excuse for corruption in their current situation.

Instead, I decided to try a different country, different site. I'm currently conversing privately off site with a beautiful Chinese girl I met on Asiandate, and all seems good. We intend to meet face to face in October.

With charmdate, you can buy the girls info if she approves you, but that is no guarantee of anything. I purchased for two different ladies, and both of them stopped all contact almost immediately. It thus seems reasonable that they are paid to get the most out of any admirer, and then move on.

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Thumbnail of user paulw85

The best answer that would gain your trust in her as well as reassurance on your part is to NOT send any money to her but pay for her flight direct online with the airport. She would have to supply genuine details of herself to enable you to do this and she can pick her ticket up direct from the airport. The lady wouldn't be able to work around it this way as you would purchase the ticket from and to your local airport. I know from experience that the lady will insist that you send the money or money order so stick the plan above and you aint gonna go wrong! Purchasing the ticket on a credit card will also insure the purchase.

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Thumbnail of user williams328

Ellis: Ina e swam in these treacherous waters for many years and Charmdate is full of sharks. Mostly the women get coerced by the agency into thinking that they are protecting them from some sexual predator. If the lady does not involve the agency you have a chance at success. The problem you will have is getting her contact information without the involvement of the agency because she will first have to sign your IMBRA Disclosure. Without her contact information it is risky because if she is an imposter from the agency, you will get screwed. If she starts making excuses why she can't do this or that, dump her. This is a big red glad that she is not the woman in the profile. Maybe you have verified through a video chat she us the real thing. Hope so, otherwise don't trust any word without proof.

Also, if this woman is living in East Ukraine avoid her like the pleague. With the war there, agencies have been recruiting desparate going door to door and getting them to write letters after a professional photo session is provided and a profile is created.
I recently had two back to back visits to Kiev where the women were real, but the agency was writing all the fake letters. Both ladies I met pleaded guilty to this charge and told me they never wrote all the letters. Even now I still get letters from one and she can't get the agency to stop thief fraud and remove her profile from CharmDate. Incredible!

Really hope you have found the real thing, but due to agencies corruption it is a needle in the haystack situation. I have completely washed my hands of Going to Ukriane. Good luck!
Bill

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Thumbnail of user ronaldv94

This site doesn't allow exchange personal information easily. You need to meet their criteria if you want to! Usually the girls keep you communicating on the site.

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Thumbnail of user davidc579

Many women are here for the gifts and parties. They maybe have a boyfriend here or in your country and just want you to pay. I found a real woman on this site and married her in Ukraine but she also told me many things about the site. Many woman rely on writers who write the responses. The answers are designed to keep you interested so they will say things they really do not mean. I also learned that in chats I never spoke with the woman. The reason is that most of the women cannot speak or understand English.

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Thumbnail of user jimmya15

Sure, but never send any monney NEVER ever

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Thumbnail of user hectorm30

You would not be asking this question if you did not have doubts. Follow your gut, not your heart. Sorry, I do not believe the site is going to allow for the both of you to meet. Throughout your nine months of correspondence, did any red flags go up? Especially in the letters. Did you print off the letters and study them looking for consistencies. Did she avoid answering questions that you really wanted answered? Did she send you lots of short letters which is a really good indication that she's working for the agency. When you exchange photos, did she send you duplicates, especially those produced in a studio. When on the site, did you take notice the chat icon showing she was in chat around the same hours daily like a regular job. Finally, did either of you request a Love Call? At the cost of 5 credits, a pre-scheduled direct call with no translator is a great way to exchange personal emails which would allow you both to break free from the site. Again, this will never happen if she's working for the agency. I do believe that for her to fly to your country, she will need a travel visa, and she will have to purchase a ticket in her country. If you can afford to gamble with your money to meet her country at the airport, not outside the airport, then that is totally your call. How will you ever know, unless you take a chance. Life is an everyday gamble. If it works out, let us know. Best of luck to you, Ellis G.

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