Paypal is another joke! You Absolutely will not in get a refund through Paypal! I filed a grievance with Paypal, did everything they told me to do including showing documentation of my communications with Noracora, provided a receipt for the return of the items and Paypal screwed me! Paypal is useless and does not care about its customers either. I will never use Paypal esp when dealing with a foreign vendor. Paypal is only good for doing business locally where at least we have American laws that will protect you.