Orderered with paypal, Dermstore said they had problem getting paid so wouldnt send product so i called paypal and credit card co. They said everything was fine just waiting for Dermstore to collect payment, dermstore said cannot try to collect from paypal a second time i needed to give them full credit card over phone to them, i said no thats why i went through paypal?! Then they kept calling me everyday to get credit card # then found out it was because it had already been shipped? Soo i dont know will see if it comes before i give them my credit card payment dont trust them after hours and hours of going in circles somebody messed up somewhere