Tophatter is the best site ever to buy and bid it's addicting really is. Now the scam to reel in victims to sell and bill you immensely out of the blue and while you send your items to random people that really pay tophatter not you as in sell all you want but a sham bill is all you receive and if you say I'm out personal property the income from it they deduct from your now in notified bill you dident know was there a few hundred for nothing or no reason then even if you go to BBB because tophatter is crap on the seller side of it and the reps and service operators and even uppidy superiors get worse the further you go up really it's a backwards pyramid so if needed settle it with the chat bubble rep don't complain or you will be led on arguing to the top hitting a cold shoulder and even colder as you go I showed a photo after tophatter ripped me off for a few hundred dollars of product and a month of trying to solve Their mistakes photo of advertisement that reeled me into trying to sell and it stated we will give you $50 to schedule a call with a sellers account rep. And a hundred in sellers credit to pay for all the fees unknown about that get you. And I actually made two scheduled calls I missed both of them and I got as well as BBB a hard nothing after they lost the battle tophatter ignored my winning play I was like I can answer all questions that need asked with real answers that will eventually make me feel better oh and don't ever review the items you buy it'll make sure you never get refunds if needed just wait 2 months and get the auto refund and u might still get the item free anyways lol and use the search option it's a guide to all products at a buy it now price way less than the bid price if your new.