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Another pay, bid&lose phoney auction site apparantly concoted from a creep in Washington State.(the domain owners).

From Haggle's very own TERMS AND CONDITIONS:

***start***Purchased Bids. In order to purchase bids, you must register an account with the Site. You must purchase and pay for any purchased bids prior to use of any such bids on the Site with any Service. All purchased bids are offered and granted by Haggle only in such quantities and at such prices and on such payment and other terms as expressly set forth on the Site, subject to and in accordance with these Terms and Conditions. All purchased bids are offered and granted by Haggle at its sole discretion and are only valid until the earlier of (i) the period of time set forth for such purchased bid as part of its offer by Haggle (ZORGON NOTE: WTF DOES THAT MEAN?) (ii) the termination of your account, either by you or by Haggle, or (iii) one year from grant (ZORGON NOTE: THIS IS ILLEGAL IN CANADA). By placing a bid in an auction, you agree to comply with and be bound by these Terms and Conditions, as well as any specific terms of the particular auction or other Service.
Use of Bids. A bid represents your right to participate in a current auction or other Service on the Site. When you place a bid in a current auction, the price of the product being auctioned increases by the amount specified for the auction and time is added to the auction by the amount specified for the auction. Each bid constitutes an offer by you to purchase the product being auctioned under these Terms and Conditions and any specific terms and conditions for such auction (ZORGON NOTE: HERE'S THE WORDING THAT ALL OF THESE INTERNET PSUEDO AUCTION CRIMINALS USE TO MAKE YOU THINK THIS IS EVEN LEGAL: YOU HAVE MADE AN OFFER, NOT A TRANSACTION! THE OFFER IS INCOMPLETE SINCE NO CHATTEL EXCHANGED HANDS, THEREFORE TO LOSE YOUR $1 BID IS CRIMINAL: DON'T FALL FOR IT! THIS IS THE HEART OF THE BEAST: IT'S CLEVER PSUEDO-LEGAL GARBAGE THAT MEANS NOTHING). If you have valid free or purchased bids available to you for use, you may place a bid in an auction by clicking on the "Bid", "Bid Now" or similarly designated link during a live auction on the Site. You may use a bid only once, and once you place a bid in an auction or other Service on the Site the Haggle will deduct the bid from your account. All bids are non-transferable, non-assignable and offered and granted by Haggle solely to you for your personal, non-commercial use in auctions and other Services that may be offered on the Site, subject to and in accordance with these Terms and Conditions. Under no circumstances may all or any portion of your bids or bid packages be sold, traded, pledged, bartered or otherwise provided to any third party.
Refunds. No refunds will be provided for any bids purchased or used.***end***

There you have it! Pure scam like so many other pay, bid&lose phoney scam auctions out there in internet land.

Yet another crooked pay-as-you-bid-and-lose-your-money psuedo-auction site concocted by some creep in Malta.

First find the fine print and then read it: your 'bids' cost you 80 cents each (paid for before you bid) yet when you use (and lose) an eighty cent bid the auction is only increased in price by 1 penny! Some creep hiding overseas keeps your 80 cents. This is illegal. You are paying money for nothing: you have given money and received nothing in return since your bid is lost when outbid and criminally reduced to a penny on the auction price to entice more on-line users looking for a deal.

These crooked live auction lose-your-bid sites are popping up everywhere!

Buyer beware! If it sounds to good to be true it usually is, and this lesson will cost you your hard earned money.

See my review at BidFun.

SCAM RIPOFF CRIMINAL
This site is a very, very cleverly designed total ripoff!
You buy credits for one dollar each. You then bid on an item with a very low price. Sooner or later someone 'wins' the item.
The details? You are locked into a one dollar bid (one of your credits) but that 'bid' only increases the item's price by 2 cents! The math? 2,000 people bidding one dollar at a time will increase the item's price by ONLY $20! This LURES hundreds of people to "SIGN UP NOW!" and try and get an item for a fraction of it's current store price.
Here's the criminal ripoff: YOU LOSE YOUR CREDIT ($1) AS SOON AS THE NEXT BIDDER BIDS! NO REFUND! That means 5,000 people each bidding ONLY 1 credit (your $1 credit) will increment the auction price by ONLY $50! YIKES!
If you see an item, like a $300 Sony PlayStaion 3 going for $30.00 then that means 3,500 people have bid 1 credits each to increase the auction price by 2 cents each and THEY HAVE ALL LOST THEIR MONEY!
To make matters MORE criminal, they add 20 seconds to the auction FOR EVERY BID! That means if you are sitting in your chair watching an auction for a Sony PS 3 and yours is the last bid when the auction counter hits zero, 20 seconds times all the bidders is added. Even more criminal: they do this when the auction ends by adding 20 seconds in groups of minutes, not hours that are the true extension due to thousands of bidders bidding.
Who wins? The last bidder (if there is one aftyer thousands of people have been ripped off of thousands of dollars), and BidFun.
EXAMPLE:
An auction is listed for a $300 Sony PS 3.
You buy credits ($20mminimum of course!)
Each time you bid on this item you raise it's final auction-end price by 2 cents.
Someone else sees that a Sony PS3 is going for 10 cents. They sign up and start bidding.
Everyone gets nutty because they haven't read the hard-to-follow rules and bids like crazy.
The auction-end counter keeps on going and going after the original auction end time, for up to hours. This entices more people to sign up.
You can have a 'ROBOT' automatically increment your bids when you are overbid: actually - 'auto rip-off of non-refundable dollars!
Someone (theoretically) finally wins the Sony PS 3 for, say $60.
$60 means that the auction has been increment by two cents 3,000 times!
BidFun makes $3,000 PLUS the $60 final price, for a $300 PS 3 (if they paid full price for the item and not wholesale).
That means BidFun has made $2,760 dollars profit by rigging a false-increment locked-in-bid-amount NO-REFUND-ON-YOUR-BID scam.
$2,760 for a $300 game!
It's a crime.
Most people are caught up in the low price of the auction and get a dizzy until they lose hundreds of dollars and sign out or figure out the scam.
Buyer Beware! This non-refundable bid auction scam is popping up like weeds in the summer all over the internet.

SCAM RIPOFF CRIMINAL
This site is a very, very cleverly designed total ripoff!
You buy credits for one dollar each. You then bid on an item with a very low price. Sooner or later someone 'wins' the item.
The details? You are locked into a one dollar bid (one of your credits) but that 'bid' only increases the item's price by 2 cents! The math? 2,000 people bidding one dollar at a time will increase the item's price by ONLY $20! This LURES hundreds of people to "SIGN UP NOW!" and try and get an item for a fraction of it's current store price.
Here's the criminal ripoff: YOU LOSE YOUR CREDIT ($1) AS SOON AS THE NEXT BIDDER BIDS! NO REFUND! That means 5,000 people each bidding ONLY 1 credit (your $1 credit) will increment the auction price by ONLY $50! YIKES!
If you see an item, like a $300 Sony PlayStaion 3 going for $30.00 then that means 3,500 people have bid 1 credits each to increase the auction price by 2 cents each and THEY HAVE ALL LOST THEIR MONEY!
To make matters MORE criminal, they add 20 seconds to the auction FOR EVERY BID! That means if you are sitting in your chair watching an auction for a Sony PS 3 and yours is the last bid when the auction counter hits zero, 20 seconds times all the bidders is added. Even more criminal: they do this when the auction ends by adding 20 seconds in groups of minutes, not hours that are the true extension due to thousands of bidders bidding.
Who wins? The last bidder (if there is one aftyer thousands of people have been ripped off of thousands of dollars), and BidFun.
EXAMPLE:
An auction is listed for a $300 Sony PS 3.
You buy credits ($20mminimum of course!)
Each time you bid on this item you raise it's final auction-end price by 2 cents.
Someone else sees that a Sony PS3 is going for 10 cents. They sign up and start bidding.
Everyone gets nutty because they haven't read the hard-to-follow rules and bids like crazy.
The auction-end counter keeps on going and going after the original auction end time, for up to hours. This entices more people to sign up.
You can have a 'ROBOT' automatically increment your bids when you are overbid: actually - 'auto rip-off of non-refundable dollars!
Someone (theoretically) finally wins the Sony PS 3 for, say $60.
$60 means that the auction has been increment by two cents 3,000 times!
BidFun makes $3,000 PLUS the $60 final price, for a $300 PS 3 (if they paid full price for the item and not wholesale).
That means BidFun has made $2,760 dollars profit by rigging a false-increment locked-in-bid-amount NO-REFUND-ON-YOUR-BID scam.
$2,760 for a $300 game!
It's a crime.
Most people are caught up in the low price of the auction and get a dizzy until they lose hundreds of dollars and sign out or figure out the scam.
Buyer Beware! This non-refundable bid auction scam is popping up like weeds in the summer all over the internet.