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12/26/09

Another pay, bid&lose phoney auction site apparantly concoted from a creep in Washington State.(the domain owners).

From Haggle's very own TERMS AND CONDITIONS:

***start***Purchased Bids. In order to purchase bids, you must register an account with the Site. You must purchase and pay for any purchased bids prior to use of any such bids on the Site with any Service. All purchased bids are offered and granted by Haggle only in such quantities and at such prices and on such payment and other terms as expressly set forth on the Site, subject to and in accordance with these Terms and Conditions. All purchased bids are offered and granted by Haggle at its sole discretion and are only valid until the earlier of (i) the period of time set forth for such purchased bid as part of its offer by Haggle (ZORGON NOTE: WTF DOES THAT MEAN?) (ii) the termination of your account, either by you or by Haggle, or (iii) one year from grant (ZORGON NOTE: THIS IS ILLEGAL IN CANADA). By placing a bid in an auction, you agree to comply with and be bound by these Terms and Conditions, as well as any specific terms of the particular auction or other Service.
Use of Bids. A bid represents your right to participate in a current auction or other Service on the Site. When you place a bid in a current auction, the price of the product being auctioned increases by the amount specified for the auction and time is added to the auction by the amount specified for the auction. Each bid constitutes an offer by you to purchase the product being auctioned under these Terms and Conditions and any specific terms and conditions for such auction (ZORGON NOTE: HERE'S THE WORDING THAT ALL OF THESE INTERNET PSUEDO AUCTION CRIMINALS USE TO MAKE YOU THINK THIS IS EVEN LEGAL: YOU HAVE MADE AN OFFER, NOT A TRANSACTION! THE OFFER IS INCOMPLETE SINCE NO CHATTEL EXCHANGED HANDS, THEREFORE TO LOSE YOUR $1 BID IS CRIMINAL: DON'T FALL FOR IT! THIS IS THE HEART OF THE BEAST: IT'S CLEVER PSUEDO-LEGAL GARBAGE THAT MEANS NOTHING). If you have valid free or purchased bids available to you for use, you may place a bid in an auction by clicking on the "Bid", "Bid Now" or similarly designated link during a live auction on the Site. You may use a bid only once, and once you place a bid in an auction or other Service on the Site the Haggle will deduct the bid from your account. All bids are non-transferable, non-assignable and offered and granted by Haggle solely to you for your personal, non-commercial use in auctions and other Services that may be offered on the Site, subject to and in accordance with these Terms and Conditions. Under no circumstances may all or any portion of your bids or bid packages be sold, traded, pledged, bartered or otherwise provided to any third party.
Refunds. No refunds will be provided for any bids purchased or used.***end***

There you have it! Pure scam like so many other pay, bid&lose phoney scam auctions out there in internet land.

12/26/09

Another pay, bid&lose phoney auction site apparantly concoted from a couple of creeps from Roubaix, France (the domain owners).

From the site's very own FAQ's:

***start***
What is a bid cost?
To take part in ongoing auctions and to place a bid, you will have to pay a cost of participation. It can differ according to the item on sale; the amount will be clearly posted in Bidygo credits next to each item.
What is a Bidygo credit?
For each offer placed and validated, credits are used to pay the bid cost. You can reload your account by clicking on the button "Buy Credits" in your account. Each Bidygo credit is worth one cent but as you buy credits you will acquire bonus credits to place more bids on the item of your choice. According to the reload amount, Bidygo credits will be granted to you. $ 5 corresponds to = 500 Bidygo credits $ 10 corresponds to = 1000 Bidygo credits $ 20 corresponds to = 2000 Bidygo credits $ 50 corresponds to = 5000 Bidygo credits So on Bidygo credits will be necessary for each bid placed except for the exclusive member auctions. Example: If you wish to place a bid on a Plasma, which the bid cost is 200 Bidygo credits, you must spend 200 credits for each validated offer.
***end***

From Bidygo's very own TERMS AND CONDITIONS:

***start***
Placing Bids
5.1 Bidygo reserves the right to cancel any bid or suspend any account without making a refund of the appropriate bidding fees or credits where: " False information is provided by the bidder when using Bidygo. " Where fraudulent activity is suspected. " Collaboration between one or more other players is suspected. " For any other reason deemed as unacceptable use of Bidygo's services. " Any other breach of this agreement.
5.2 You agree that the bidding fee is non-refundable.
5.3 Once a bid is placed it cannot be cancelled or changed, under any circumstances.
5.4 Any amounts lost by bidders while using Bidygo are not recoverable, under any circumstances.
5.5 Bidygo shall not be liable for any causes preventing the receipt of bids for any reason, including but not limited to failure of any hardware or software providing access to the Bidygo website or services.
***end***

There you have it! Pure scam like so many other pay, bid&lose phoney scam auctions out there in internet land.

They show an Apple MacBook Air, MSRP of $1,499.00 COST-PER-CLICK (bid) of 100. This would cost you, prepaid from your credit or on-line debit card (and non-refundable, see 5.2 above) $1.00. Every time you or anyone else worldwide makes a bid of 100 credits ($1.00) it is lost as soon as ANYONE ELSE makes another bid. This is the way these crooks stack up thousands of dollars from everyone who bids, except for the lowest bidder (if there really is a real live 'lowest bidding' person and not some ghost invented by the obvious crooks running this show).

Actually, the site owners are midly stupid: they show supposed photos of winners. How many auction sites do you think the winner of an auction would agree to have his or her picture up for everyone to see? Jeesh:-P

I kind of wonder about the other reviewer here saying that he did not receive a confirmation email yet he placed a bid on a notebook anyways. Hmmmmmmmm.

12/25/09

Yet another crooked pay-as-you-bid-and-lose-your-money psuedo-auction site concocted by some creep in Malta.

First find the fine print and then read it: your 'bids' cost you 80 cents each (paid for before you bid) yet when you use (and lose) an eighty cent bid the auction is only increased in price by 1 penny! Some creep hiding overseas keeps your 80 cents. This is illegal. You are paying money for nothing: you have given money and received nothing in return since your bid is lost when outbid and criminally reduced to a penny on the auction price to entice more on-line users looking for a deal.

These crooked live auction lose-your-bid sites are popping up everywhere!

Buyer beware! If it sounds to good to be true it usually is, and this lesson will cost you your hard earned money.

See my review at BidFun.

12/22/09

SCAM RIPOFF CRIMINAL
This site is a very, very cleverly designed total ripoff!
You buy credits for one dollar each. You then bid on an item with a very low price. Sooner or later someone 'wins' the item.
The details? You are locked into a one dollar bid (one of your credits) but that 'bid' only increases the item's price by 2 cents! The math? 2,000 people bidding one dollar at a time will increase the item's price by ONLY $20! This LURES hundreds of people to "SIGN UP NOW!" and try and get an item for a fraction of it's current store price.
Here's the criminal ripoff: YOU LOSE YOUR CREDIT ($1) AS SOON AS THE NEXT BIDDER BIDS! NO REFUND! That means 5,000 people each bidding ONLY 1 credit (your $1 credit) will increment the auction price by ONLY $50! YIKES!
If you see an item, like a $300 Sony PlayStaion 3 going for $30.00 then that means 3,500 people have bid 1 credits each to increase the auction price by 2 cents each and THEY HAVE ALL LOST THEIR MONEY!
To make matters MORE criminal, they add 20 seconds to the auction FOR EVERY BID! That means if you are sitting in your chair watching an auction for a Sony PS 3 and yours is the last bid when the auction counter hits zero, 20 seconds times all the bidders is added. Even more criminal: they do this when the auction ends by adding 20 seconds in groups of minutes, not hours that are the true extension due to thousands of bidders bidding.
Who wins? The last bidder (if there is one aftyer thousands of people have been ripped off of thousands of dollars), and BidFun.
EXAMPLE:
An auction is listed for a $300 Sony PS 3.
You buy credits ($20mminimum of course!)
Each time you bid on this item you raise it's final auction-end price by 2 cents.
Someone else sees that a Sony PS3 is going for 10 cents. They sign up and start bidding.
Everyone gets nutty because they haven't read the hard-to-follow rules and bids like crazy.
The auction-end counter keeps on going and going after the original auction end time, for up to hours. This entices more people to sign up.
You can have a 'ROBOT' automatically increment your bids when you are overbid: actually - 'auto rip-off of non-refundable dollars!
Someone (theoretically) finally wins the Sony PS 3 for, say $60.
$60 means that the auction has been increment by two cents 3,000 times!
BidFun makes $3,000 PLUS the $60 final price, for a $300 PS 3 (if they paid full price for the item and not wholesale).
That means BidFun has made $2,760 dollars profit by rigging a false-increment locked-in-bid-amount NO-REFUND-ON-YOUR-BID scam.
$2,760 for a $300 game!
It's a crime.
Most people are caught up in the low price of the auction and get a dizzy until they lose hundreds of dollars and sign out or figure out the scam.
Buyer Beware! This non-refundable bid auction scam is popping up like weeds in the summer all over the internet.

12/22/09

SCAM RIPOFF CRIMINAL
This site is a very, very cleverly designed total ripoff!
You buy credits for one dollar each. You then bid on an item with a very low price. Sooner or later someone 'wins' the item.
The details? You are locked into a one dollar bid (one of your credits) but that 'bid' only increases the item's price by 2 cents! The math? 2,000 people bidding one dollar at a time will increase the item's price by ONLY $20! This LURES hundreds of people to "SIGN UP NOW!" and try and get an item for a fraction of it's current store price.
Here's the criminal ripoff: YOU LOSE YOUR CREDIT ($1) AS SOON AS THE NEXT BIDDER BIDS! NO REFUND! That means 5,000 people each bidding ONLY 1 credit (your $1 credit) will increment the auction price by ONLY $50! YIKES!
If you see an item, like a $300 Sony PlayStaion 3 going for $30.00 then that means 3,500 people have bid 1 credits each to increase the auction price by 2 cents each and THEY HAVE ALL LOST THEIR MONEY!
To make matters MORE criminal, they add 20 seconds to the auction FOR EVERY BID! That means if you are sitting in your chair watching an auction for a Sony PS 3 and yours is the last bid when the auction counter hits zero, 20 seconds times all the bidders is added. Even more criminal: they do this when the auction ends by adding 20 seconds in groups of minutes, not hours that are the true extension due to thousands of bidders bidding.
Who wins? The last bidder (if there is one aftyer thousands of people have been ripped off of thousands of dollars), and BidFun.
EXAMPLE:
An auction is listed for a $300 Sony PS 3.
You buy credits ($20mminimum of course!)
Each time you bid on this item you raise it's final auction-end price by 2 cents.
Someone else sees that a Sony PS3 is going for 10 cents. They sign up and start bidding.
Everyone gets nutty because they haven't read the hard-to-follow rules and bids like crazy.
The auction-end counter keeps on going and going after the original auction end time, for up to hours. This entices more people to sign up.
You can have a 'ROBOT' automatically increment your bids when you are overbid: actually - 'auto rip-off of non-refundable dollars!
Someone (theoretically) finally wins the Sony PS 3 for, say $60.
$60 means that the auction has been increment by two cents 3,000 times!
BidFun makes $3,000 PLUS the $60 final price, for a $300 PS 3 (if they paid full price for the item and not wholesale).
That means BidFun has made $2,760 dollars profit by rigging a false-increment locked-in-bid-amount NO-REFUND-ON-YOUR-BID scam.
$2,760 for a $300 game!
It's a crime.
Most people are caught up in the low price of the auction and get a dizzy until they lose hundreds of dollars and sign out or figure out the scam.
Buyer Beware! This non-refundable bid auction scam is popping up like weeds in the summer all over the internet.

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