If you type logo design on the web you're going to get flooded with these cheap $39 logo designs. This company is part of a string of self-proclaimed design companies who really will steal your money, provide you cramp work and try to upsell you With every conversation you have. They, combined with their billing company logo design café has kept $700 of mine and refused to return it. Made complaint with the BBB and numerous organizations and attempt to put these people out of business. They are 100% certified crooks!