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robertb1207

Bob J.

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6 Reviews by Bob

4/12/21

Terrible website with misleading information that spends a fortune on marketing to attract and fleece honest people. Checkout Cleanenergyassociation executives and employees. They are not qualified or educated in the tech they are claiming to be experts of. Most came from the auto industry selling junk used cars. I wasted almost 2 hours before it became clear they are incompetent. Dont believe their youtube-ads or videos. Total BS.

Tip for consumers:
Do your research first. This website is a joke.

3/14/20

Purchased a log splitter through their web site. It arrived damaged and it was obviously used. It has rust on it, was dirty, wear marks, and missing parts. The day it arrived, I contacted their customer service. They had me take a lot of pictures. Days turned into weeks. They ignored my emails. I got a call from manufacturer who shipped me a few replacement parts. I guess they want me to refurbish this used piece of junk myself after paying for a new one. Its been a month and now they are saying no returns. The customer service guy, who I think is also the owner is a crooked liar. Ryan is name, cheating and lying is his game.

3/14/20

Purchased a log splitter through their web site. It arrived damaged and it was obviously used. It has rust on it, was dirty, wear marks, and missing parts. The day it arrived, I contacted their customer service. They had me take a lot of pictures. Days turned into weeks. They ignored my emails. I got a call from manufacturer who shipped me a few replacement parts. I guess they want me to refurbish this used piece of junk myself after paying for a new one. Its been a month and now they are saying no returns. The customer service guy, who I think is also the owner is a crooked liar. Ryan is name, cheating and lying is his game.

Tip for consumers:
Avoid this web site and company

Products used:
Ton Log Splitter

ryanl298
Ryan L. – Woodsplitteroutlet Rep

Robert, it was a brand new unit direct from the manufacturer, Boss Industrial.

Your story perpetually changed through our interactions. I also answered every one of your emails within 24 hours of receipt and most within a few hours. In fact, there was one occasion where I did not get a response from you for over 5 days. Days did not turn into weeks by any fault of ours or Boss Industrial. The parts box took over a week to send out to you because you would not respond to my emails and I had to call you. It would have shipped out more quickly had you answered my questions instead of responding with trite emails like your first response with my questions, "Your email does not make sense of you actually looked at the pictures I sent. All of your questions and assumptions are in the pictures." If that were true, I wouldn't have asked. Regardless, if someone needs clarification to help you, why wouldn't you want to do so? The only person you hurt by not doing so is you. In the end, you received the parts box and then emailed me over a week later to ask again for your "discount."

The full story here is that Robert purchased this unit online to avoid paying sales tax which is why many people buy online from smaller retailers like WSO. Upon arrival, the crating had taken some damage while in transit and Robert sent me pictures prior to me even asking for them. When I attempted to answer the list of questions he had where he was clearly setting the stage to ask for his, "Discount for his trouble," he would not answer them. Only after I called him directly to get these answers so I could help him did he answer those questions and get him the parts box described above. It seems it was his intent from the start to try and get a piece of equipment on the cheap.

In transit, most packaging and crating will take some damage. It's supposed to take the damage to avoid damaging the internal product. You were missing the parts box which must have fallen off in transit. It was strapped to the top of the crate. A warranty issue that Boss Industrial happily assisted you with and sent you a new parts box. I didn't hear back from you for another two weeks until you contacted me demanding, "A refund of $300," for your, "Trouble." When I said, "No," you then attempted to bully me into the discount by telling me that you were putting the unit, in the original packaging (we'll touch on this below), on your driveway for me to come and pick up and cancel your order if I don't give it to you. You then threatened to, "'Leave some well-earned feedback with the Better Business Burea (sic) and a few other web sites (sic)," if I didn't give you a refund.

I'm not 100% sure if you've purchased anything from a retailer before, online or brick and mortar, but in no situation does any retailer just come and "pickup" product that you purchased. There are returns policies and procedures that you failed to follow at any time should you have wanted to even discuss returning your goods. You didn't even ask to return it for nearly a month after you received it. Well past any return date regardless of your failure to follow any return procedure.

Unfortunately, as I attempted to explain to you yesterday before your bullying threats, we do not accept returns on opened or used equipment. At first, you said you had to, "Destroy the packaging to get it out," but then you said it was, "Ready for me to pick it up in the original packaging," because you never took it out of the crate. This was prior to even filing a return request or following any process you agreed to when purchasing, but which was it? Was the packaging destroyed when you removed it from the crate or did you never take it out of the crate so the packaging was original?

We don't sell used equipment and the manufacturer does not sell used equipment, at this time, via online or traditional retailers. Since we don't accept returns on used equipment or even equipment that has not been used but removed from the crating we don't have any used equipment to sell. As you've learned we are very careful so we don't have any returned inventory. So logically, there is no way for us to have used equipment to send you.

This unit was shipped directly from the manufacturer and they sent you a brand new unit. Unfortunately, the parts box was lost in transit. They contacted you, you spoke to their support team, they helped you with your questions and sent you out the missing parts box. I take exception to being called a liar by someone that from the get-go changed their story multiple times, refused to answer my questions in attempts to help you with your needs, and then threatened to and now has taken to online bullying because he didn't get his way.

I do hope you get a ton of great use out of your splitter. This is the first time in our history that anyone has resorted to online bullying because they tried to force us into giving them a unit on the cheap.

Ryan
Owner
Woodspitteroutlet.com

3/13/20

UBuiltIt attempted to scam me. Promised all of the usual customer service, support, expertise, etc. I quickly found out the Dallas rep was a crook and was running multiple scam companies in Texas. The owner of Ubuildit franchise in Oklahoma is also a crook. Lengthy criminal record and history of lawsuits for scamming people in various businesses. Hundreds of negative reviews online. Dozens of lawsuits around the country. Do yourself a favor and avoid UBuildIt. I filed a complaint with the State of Texas and with American Express. While UBuildIt refused to refund me, American Express did and wiped out UBuildit's account.

3/13/20

Countless emails, phone calls, and in-person meetings still won't fix the incompetence at Tech Wildcatters. Trust me, I've tried. My CPA has tried. My secretary has tried. My partner has tried. It's pointless. They are incompetent.

Late paperwork. Incorrect paperwork. Missing paperwork.

Late tax documents. Incorrect tax documents. Missing tax documents.

The only things they ever send out consistently are the misleading and fictitious newsletters and status reports. To sum it up, those newsletters and company reports are the biggest collection of lies.

That's why I don't support Tech Wildcatters anymore. Probably why so many people have stopped supporting them.

It explains why their brand and their startups have gone downhill.

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8/29/18

I ordered a neon 110v BMW sign for over $200. After a couple weeks, I had not received the product. I contacted Shacksign, and they said to wait 3 weeks and then to let them know if the product hasn't arrived. What? Then the tracking information they provided did not work. After 3 weeks, the sign had still not arrived. I contacted Shacksign again (they never initiated contact with me). About 6 emails later, Shacksign finally shipped a replacement. It arrived several days later. To my surprise, it looked nothing like what I ordered. It was NOT neon. The colors were wrong. And it was basically a low quality, pixelated sticker stuck on a very thin cheap piece of plastic with hobby foam board backing. Seriously, something that a 4 year old would have made in elementary arts and crafts session after lunch. Now we are approaching 6 weeks. Shacksign has refused to pay for a refund and instead wants me to spend more of my time and money trying to deal with their "company policies". Well, I have my own polices as does my credit card. It says "send me what I paid for, otherwise, its refund time".

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