Having slept on countless letdown mattresses, I think I may have found the one! My friends own the Loom and Leaf relaxed firm and let me try it a while back. I thought it was nice, but not firm enough, so I looked them up to see if they had any other options. I bought the Loom and Leaf Firm and absolutely love it- not only was the price great, but I can't remember the last time I didn't wake with any pain!