Turns out these folks have been ripping off my disabled Father and charging his credit card over and over for joint support formula's he has not ordered. They tell me too bad and say they will not take the product back. They have gotten him for $45.00 a pop. They are a scam, their representative that answers the phone lies and says his supervisors and boss are all in a meeting and doesn't listen as he says what he reads from a script saying "you" ordered, yada, yada, yada. Don't give them your credit card information!