I guess I fell for all the advertising about how great these pants were -- they're not. The company must have designed them for very strange bodies: the crotch is dropped, the thighs are enormous, and then they taper down to almost nothing at the ankle, so basically what you're getting are clown pants. If a clown is what you want to look like at the gym, these are for you. If you want to look normal, forget about it.