I'm sorry to hear about your problem with atlatl bob perkins. I wish I would have seen your review before giving bob $500.00 for a custom atlatl. It's been a month and a half since I placed my order, and I may contact him a few times at most, then I will contact the MT State Attorney Generals office as well as the B. B. B. Of MT... don't give up, criminal behavior should never be accepted. You can keep spreading the word about folks who engage in criminal business practices.