The Good; I love the pants, good quality, nice fit. I would order more BUT
The Bad: 1st order took over 8 weeks from order to delivery. But I loved them so much I thought OK, I'll give them another chance. Ordered another pair 3 October, said they would be delivered in October. I checked again today (nov 6) they are now on back order, no expected delivery date can be given. As much as I love the pants I will not be ordering again.