I went to ugmuscle after getting banned from a bad place. Then it was a bunch of great guys and gals to my surprise looking to help with my diet and training. I started to read and ask questions after I wrote an introduction and everytime I ask a question its answered in depth which means alot to me. All other forums you usually just get told that you are stupid for not knowing but if I knew I wouldn't be asking isn't that the point of these places well im glad that I found ugmuscle and a bunch of the community I honestly consider friends and its not sad like oh no he only has computer friends these are good guys that hunt fish shoot and love nature and their family as much as lifting.