Ordered, and delivered when promised, however a couple were pretty beat up, torn fins and what appeared to be scraped up, UPS guy was an idiot, i tracked package, meet ups at curb, as he's looking for my package, he was kicking it, untill i spotted and said something, im sure all morning box with live fish was just brutalizing by incompetent ups driver, ive lost 2 of said discus, no fault of anyone, but leaning towards the ups guys inability to care for a fragile package. And i have to comment of the packing of fish, pretty darn good, considering ups failure.