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Aaron M.

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6 Reviews by Aaron

9/9/20
I am a dating site investigator. www.datingreviews.online provides a very positive review of LovingFeel.com. Unfortunately, however, LovingFeel.com is a total scam. See my review with sitejabber.com or go to http://www.churchonfire.net/dating-fraud-at-lovingfeel-com/

Aaron Milavec
True Confessions = payhip.com/b/DwJg
9/2/20
Lovingfeel.com promises to be an ideal platform enabling Western men to date Asian women.

LovingFeel.com profiles contain high-quality photos and videos. You are free to review profiles that include public images and personal details. Members must buy credits to view private pictures and videos.

Female members must get validation status which provides assurances to the men that the pics displayed and the profile data are scrupulously reliable. This validation is optional for male members. Having been burnt by web sites that feature profiles of women who are inactive or even dead, it was a relief for me to know about their validation procedures.

When I first set-up my profile, I received five invitations to chat and four emails within the next hour. In the days and weeks that followed, I received, on the average, eight new invitations to chat and four new emails every day. What I noticed immediately is the high quality of the email pics. Three out of four pics were the product of a professional studio. Each woman had between five and twelve pics. While the pics were very attractive, the profiles were thin and centered on standard biographical details. Room was given for a lengthy self-description, but I noticed that almost all the women avoided using this. The reason for this will soon become clear.

This dating site requires that men purchase credits to participate. 10 credits for an initial email; 25 for subsequent emails. Chatroom participation is computed at 2 credits per minute. Initially men receive 20 credits free. From that point onward, one has to pay roughly 1 rmb for every credit. Women, in contrast, have no fees. [Note: exchange rate is 7 rmb per US dollar.] I soon bought 750 credits for $125. Overall, I would rate the endless nickel and dime fees as producing a pricy dating experience. Here are the current discounted prices:

Prices

50 credits for 28.99$; discount price - 19.99$

125 credits for 64.99$; discount price - 44.99$

250 credits for 99.99$; discount price - 69.99$

750 credits for 214.99$; discount price - 149.99$

After one month, I had developed a strong attraction to one of the women. We shared a lot of personal history and arrived at the point when we were ready to meet. I commend the designers of this site for providing a safe mode whereby women have a safety net when it comes to dating. I vigorously oppose, however, the requirement that a man must have spent 3000 credits on a woman before he (with her permission) could discover her email address or phone number. My Chinese gf and I were ready to take this step after having spent 525 credits. At this point, we had nearly five hours of sustained chatting, and I wanted to introduce my gf to some of my short stories (since I am a writer and publisher). This was impossible. So I began to initiate strategies for giving my gf my private email address. The software successfully blocked all my attempts. In effect, therefore, this dating site requires that I spend $428 on my gf before I could give her my email address. Gasp! This can now be seen as a pricy experience. Be forewarned. The managers of this site intend to pick your pocket even if you don't succeed in making a love match.

At just this point, I received a racy email for two different ladies: Lishuang Wu, 33 [ #20780923] and Lu Lu, 39 [ #20038826]. Here was the content:

We can try all the [sex] possitions together, and we will cuuum so many times together, we will have so much pleasure together too. That would be a wonderful life, do you think so? [The deliberate misspellings of sexy words is calculated to avoid blocking out such words by the software.]

What caused me alarm is that both of the women used the exact same words, including the same spelling and grammatical errors. This requires some explanation, don't you think?

Explanation #1: Did LW [abbr. For Lishuang Wu] copy from LL [abbr. For Lu Lu]? Did LL copy from LW? Not likely. Neither woman had visual access to what the other was typing. All chatroom conversations are "private."

Explanation #2: Both LW and LL are living in Beijing. Perhaps they are good friends. Perhaps they decided to work on their dating site together in the same place. Perhaps LW wrote the text, read it to her friend, LL, and her friend asked to borrow it. So LW copied her text in an email and sent it to LL. LL then opened the email and copied and pasted LW's text into her chatroom. What neither of them noticed, however, is that both of them were sending their shared message to the same person, namely me [aLong]. Explanation #2 is very conjectural. What is nearly impossible to contemplate is the improbability that they were independently responding to my chatroom input AT THE SAME TIME.

Explanation #3: Did both LW and LL share the same list of 20 or 30 chatroom responses? If so, this could explain how the word-for-word text was offered to me by two women who did not know each other and surely did not work side-by-side. The directors of some dating chatrooms do deliberately circulate sample responses to their female clients. In other instances, the women themselves create their own lists by visiting other dating sites. Even if such lists were in use, however, it would be highly unlikely that two women operating independently would somehow select to send me the identical same response at approximately the same time [plus or minus 30 minutes].

Explanation #4: Does https://lovingfeel.com hire women or men as paid "avatars" who stimulate chatroom exchanges by maintaining 3 to 8 female profiles at the same time? Dating sites who engage in this practice must, by law, alert their clients that such "avatars" are in play. I have not found any such admission on the part of https://lovingfeel.com. But let us allow, for the sake of argument, that https://lovingfeel.com was willing to work outside the law and that one such "avatar" hired by them was assigned both Lishuang Wu, 33 [ 20780923] and Lu Lu, 39 [ 20038826] as their "fake identities." The directors of https://lovingfeel.com could claim that both of these women have "verified identities" at some point, but, for one reason or the other, they left https://lovingfeel.com. Rather than deleting their inactive identities, the directors of https://lovingfeel.com might have decided that it would be in their interest to assign such inactive "identities" to a hired avatar who worked behind the scenes to maintain their pricy communications with "fake women hiding behind verified identities."

If one looks at the words sent to me, it is clear that LW and LL were intent upon my "sexual arousal." If you read my own previous comments to both of these women, you will not find me so orientated. Hence, since many dating sites do hire "avatars" to promote the sexual stimulation of their male clients, it is not unthinkable that https://lovingfeel.com might be tempted to do the same.

It is furthermore quite possible that a lazy avatar would write a stimulating text for one client and then turn around and use it for three or more other clients as well. Since the men have no way of seeing texts written to persons other than themselves, this lazy "cut and paste" shortcut would never be noticed. However, a lazy avatar who was assigned both Lishuang Wu, 33 [ 20780923] and Lu Lu, 39 [ 20038826] as his "fake identities" might carelessly have sent the same identical words to dozens of their suitors and, in the process, they might have lost track of the fact that the same erotic words were being inadvertently sent to me [aLong] by two unrelated women: LW and LL.

I CAUGHT YOU CHEATING!

As it turns out, I am a professional investigator. I have spent four years investigating fraudulent practices used by dating sites, and I have published two books designed to give the average online dater the tools for detecting various forms of fraud and protecting themselves there from. In interested, go to True Confessions = payhip.com/b/DwJg or Mary Schuster Sex Slave = https://payhip.com/b/QinS

I came to https://lovingfeel.com with the hope of having a pleasant experience in meeting, in understanding, and in dating Chinese women. I am bitterly disappointed in finding that fraudulent practices have severely worn down my trust. Based upon my own personal experiences, I would judge that only 20% of the women's profiles are legitimate and are being operated by the woman shown in the profile. My two favorite women were "online" in the chatroom ten hours every day. If they weren't talking to me, then I must presume that they were communicating with other men. This was the case even when one of these women assured me that I was her "exclusive gf" and that she spent her days "constantly thinking of me." Hence, even among the 20%, there is the suspicion that the women are not playing with a full deck of cards. My suspicion is that the management of https://lovingfeel.com offers women a portion of the fees being paid by the men; hence, even the "honest women" are being systematically corrupted by the system in place. Needless to say, I was not able to confirm this.

When I did challenge particular women to post a pic of themselves holding a sign saying "aLong Woda Baobei" [aLong is my treasure]. This msg was in Mandarin so as to make it invisible to 95% of the men seeing it. Even my special gf was unwilling to do this as a favor for me; hence, I leave it to my readers to draw their own conclusions.

Visitors by Country [from HypeStat.com].

Users% Pageviews% Rank

United States 27.0% 19.9% 51983

India 4.8% 9.0% 74668

France 3.9% 3.9% 46753

Brazil 3.6% 19.7% 33352

Ethiopia 2.3% 1.1% 5023

Bangladesh 1.7% 1.0% 14761

Algeria 1.2% 1.0% 19178

Indonesia 1.1% 0.7% 50106

Egypt 1.0% 1.5% 36003

Uganda 1.0% 1.3% 4450

South Africa 0.9% 0.3% 59315

Sri Lanka 0.9% 0.6% 11351

Tanzania 0.7% 0.7% 7291

Ghana 0.7% 1.0% 5456

Conclusion: When I did searches for women, I chose "Chinese women" and received more than 20,000 hits. 96% of my emails received were from women in China. Yet, in the "Visitors by Country" table above, no visitors from China are even listed (meaning it is less than 1%). Something is wrong here. At least 48% of the visitors to this site should be located in China. But clearly they are not. The only way to explain this is to conclude that the vast majority of "certified women" are listed as being from China, but, in fact, they are not. They are from the USA or from India. This helps me understand why my two favorite Chinese women used and understood American slang so well. They WERE, in fact, Americans disguising themselves as "Chinese women." I am living in Shanghai. I am sensitive to how careful an American must be when using English slang. I have a Chinese woman teaching me Mandarin who professionally functions to train Chinese teachers to teach English at the high school level. Her use and understanding of American slang is very limited.

Better yet! Try using some Mandarin words in the chatroom. I dare you. Try asking your Chinese gf how to say "telescope" or "raining cats and dogs" in Mandarin. YOU WILL BE DISAPPOINTED.

Sincerely,

Aaron, Online Investigator of Fraudulent Dating Sites

My email = *******@ChurchonFire.net

PS: I just now did a Google search and found a site that provides a balanced and trustworthy confirmation of the scam being perpetrated by the directors: "LovingFeel.com Admits To Creating Fake Profiles & Deceptions Exposed In This Review."

Lovingfeel.Com - Info

lovingfeel.com receives about 10,859 unique visitors and 36,921 (3.40 per visitor) page views per day which should earn about $118.07/day from advertising revenue. Estimated site value is $48,181.59. According to Alexa Traffic Rank lovingfeel.com is ranked number 98,115 in the world and 0.00064% of global Internet users visit it. Site is hosted in United States and links to network IP address 104. 19. 177. 131. This server supports HTTPS and HTTP/2 [from HypeStat.com].

Email = *******@ChurchonFire.net I just now did a Google search and found a site that provides a balanced and trustworthy investigation of the scam being perpetrated by the directors: "LovingFeel.com Admits To Creating Fake Profiles & Deceptions Exposed In This Review."

Sincerely,

Aaron Milavec
7/10/18
On the day when everything went wrong in my Fidelity Investment Account, I called the trading desk and asked Frank, "Can I now officially place trades today as a day trader?" He said, "Yes." I told him what I planned to do, and he said, "Go ahead."

With confidence, then, I went ahead and made two day trades in BZUN. Next day I was hit with a $32,748 day trader call. I called the trader desk and explained that I did not have $33k cash to liquidate this call. Sure enough, Frank had made a serious error. The money was in the account, but $600 had not yet cleared. Hence, on the morning I spoke to Frank, only $24,900 was available in my account. Note: $25,000 is required for day trader status.

The trading desk agreed (they listened to the recorded conversation I had with Frank)--Frank had made an error. They also explained that once the day trader call was posted, it could not be withdrawn. Fidelity offered me 25 free trades (worth $200). I asked Fidelity to invest $33k into my account for two days so as to meet the call. Fidelity explained that federal regulations do not allow them to do this. So I asked for 50 free trades (worth $400) to partially compensate for Frank's bad judgment. After much hesitation, Fidelity finally agreed.

In all these exchanges, I never once felt that anyone on the trading desk was taking my side and actively thinking in the direction of providing a solution. This is what hurt. They politely gave the information I asked for, but never once expressed regret for the financial suffering that Frank's bad info had caused. Nor did they express any concern that I was losing faith in the advice that the trader's desk was offering me. What were they not telling me?

On two other occasions, I was given bad info by Fidelity staff. On these occasions as well, I ended up saying, "I have no confidence that you are working with me to find a solution. You give me only the information that I ask for and then spend an enormous amount of energy trying to justify the treatment that I received."

All in all, I spent over ten hours in voice and text exchanges with Fidelity staff (advisors and supervisors). It was an enormous waste of time. Nixon brought the word "stone-walling" into the American vocabulary. I would say that the Fidelity staff exhibits stonewalling. Empathy is practically non-existent.
8/25/16
I am an online fraud detective. I just set up my profile on http://www.freecrush.com

After 24 hrs., 18 women have viewed my site, but every one of them is a NL = avatar. Six users have contacted me with IMs. All NL avatars.

I did receive one email from a real live woman.

This site claims to be free, but you and I know that this may not be entirely true. http://www.freecrush.com allows one to go to "gold" by just entering data from ones credit card.

BE AWARE that the free use is only for two days, then one is billed for $40. I have not done this because the site has not proved its worth as yet.

For a complete exposure of the frauds on dating sites and foolproof directions to protect yourself and your wallet, go to https://payhip.com/b/DwJg

We keep you humming,
Adam Rose (detective)
FlirtHookUp
1/4/16
I signed up for one-month of dating services with flirthookup.com on 23 Dec 2015. I filled out my profile and wrote emails to a dozen of the women who viewed me.

No returns.

So I did a picture check using google images. The results were depressing.

#1 sweetbaby1974 and her pic are listed as living in Cincinnati (my town), but on pof.com, the same combo is listed for East Brewton, Alabama. There were ten other sites that displayed the same pic, some in the UK. Does sweetbaby keep all these sites active? Not likely. No reply from her even though she did go online regularly.

#2 NoreenFiles634 and her pic are listed for Covington, KY (near Cinci), but the same combo is listed for Salt Lake City on xmeeting.com. Her age goes from 42 to 34. Does Noreen keep both sites active because she travels back and forth? Unlikely. No reply from her even though she did go online regularly.

Then I used FlirtHookUp and scam as Google search words. The Scambook site headed up the list: Information about FlirtHookUp was first submitted to Scambook on Jan 08,2013. Since then the page has accumulated 83 consumer complaints. On average users reported $44.66 of damages.

I called *******473 on 04 Jan 2016 and explained my complaint. Ozzie offered to reduce my bill from $59.95 to $29.95 (one-month rental). I was charged for three-months even though I had registered online for one month only. I agreed to the cut-back but explained that I would take this issue up with my credit card company in order to have a full refund. Ozzie then reluctantly offered me a full refund. I accepted and requested an email confirmation:

Dear Valued Customer,

A refund has been issued to your account in the amount of $59.95 for the membership to FlirtHookup.com. Please allow 10-15 business days for the refund to post to your account. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

If you have any questions regarding this matter please contact our 24 hour Customer Service Center at *******714 FREE or *******864.

Your cancellation of further billing is confirmed.

Thank you,

Customer Service
OA4067
9/10/15
Tried match.com. Then went to echemistry.com. Finally discovered ascendinghearts.com.

What a joy! No more superficial profiles. Here the women express their inner journey, and they are interested in my own. Cost is one-half of other sites; yet, the value is five times better.

I wish I had come here first.

*******@yahoo.com

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