Went online and found what I wanted to order. Created profile with password. JFC.US emailed me confirmation of my registration with an email containing my password. Nice. I continued with my purchase. When I got to the end of the transaction, I expected to give my CC number, considering there was talk of 128 bit encryption etc etc on the site. But I just got to the end and it said "Thank you for your patronage.
View the order by following the link below."
So wondering how/when I should give them my payment,,,, I checked my email. Sometime later, I received an email saying: Dear Customer,
You can now pay your invoice by credit card payment direct without creating an account.
For Faster Service type or cut and paste the Remark into the payment home page.
Remark: 548xxxxx7 (blanked out by me for security)
Click on the link to pay the credit card processing fee has already been added
https://www.fashionpay.com/fastPayAction.action?MerNo=1492&Amount=70.52&ordernumber=5484us
Or cut and past it into your browser" END
Fashionpay? This guy has numerous websites... thought I was ordering a jersey... but who knows.
So I click the link and it takes me to a webiste that gives me options to pay by Visa, Mastercard, Interac (for canadians only), Paypal, Western Union, and a couple others. This is already really weird and making me uncomfortable, bu tI decide to forge ahead. I click on Visa, and send my info.
Then I receive this:
Dear Customer,
Western Union and EMoneyGram are the only 2 options for using MasterCard right now
Please fill out the payment form and email it back to us
Send payment to:
FIRST NAME: Yan
LAST NAME: Liao
Receiving City is Guangzhou, Guangdong China
Email us with the EXACT info you typed into the form
Western Union MTCN:
EMoneyGram Reference:
Sender's First Name:
Sender's Middle Name:
Sender's Last Name:
Amount Sent: 67 USD
Your Invoice Number: Order # 5484 us 1j / $67
http://www.westernunion.com/
http://www.emoneygram.com/ END\\
So if this isn't enough to make you freak out, I don't know what is. They've got my Visa, and I'm screwed. PLUS McAfee is telling me this is a prohibited file type.
One minute later, I receive another email, as follows:
Security Question Answer: 5484
Amount CDN to Send: 69.74 CAD
Message to Send: 5484 us 1j / $67
Send Interac payment to *******@johntaylor.name
Amount USD: 67
Invoice Number: 5484 us
Canadian Interac
Fee is only about 2 loonies if you have access to a Canadian bank account.
Send Interac payment to *******@johntaylor.name
Make sure you write your invoice number in the notes.
Use Invoice number? For the security question
Use your invoice number for the answer to the security question.
4 numbers for website orders
IF YOUR BANK Requires 5 digits add a zero to the end
And make the security question: What's the 5 digit invoice number?
If your bank requires 6 digits add two zeros to the end
And make the security question: What's the 6 digit invoice number?
How to Use Interac Video
Interac Website
Converting Payment from USD to Canadian Dollars
Say for example you wanted to pay for your order using Interac.
In this example your order is 100 USD. You simply go to
Type in 100. Change the first drop down menu to USD United Sates Dollars
Change the second drop down to CAD Canada Dollars
CLICK on Go!
The calculation for today's exchange rate shows up
In this example, you would pay $106.50 in Canadian Funds
For your 100 USD invoice.
Any questions? You can email me at *******@johntaylor.name
1 Login in to your Online Bank Account
Login in to your Canadian Bank Account Online
2 Find the Payments Menu
Find the Interac Email Money Transfer
Usually its located in the transfer / Payments menu
At RBC it looks like this
3 Fill out the Online Form
Recipient's email address: *******@johntaylor.name
Payment amount: the total on your invoice from us
Account from which to withdraw the funds: your bank account
Security Question: What is the 4 digit invoice number?
Add optional personal message: your invoice number and your name
4 Wait for Payment Confirmation
Email notification:
Interac will send us an email to let us know you have sent a payment.
We will mark your invoice as paid and send you a copy. END//
Scary, right?
So I send: This is $#*!ed. Forget about it.
I get back from John Taylor: Use interac
(huh? I already paid with VISA and I phoned Visa and confirmed the charge went through!)
Less than 1 minute later I get another email ( I hadn't even responed to the first one yet!):
Statistically speaking 3% of all customers are idiots or $#*!s.
They shouldn't be allowed to buy anything... at anytime... from anyone...
If you are one of the 3% then please go buy elsewhere
We don't want your business.
We don't have time for you.
We are busy giving our customers great customer service.
Go read about you here
OK, he's calling me a bad customer? Wow. I'm just trying to order a jersey...
Then ten minutes later I get this:
Maybe you are just too $#*!ing stupid
That is much more likely considering we have over 70,000 successful transactions
You are the only idiot that can't figure it out END//
I say: It's $#*!ing stupid. Like you.
He says: I doubt it's me and the other 70,000 people that managed it
But maybe it is everyone else in the world is $#*!ing stupid
And you are the only smart one. Too smart to figure out simple $#*!
Yea. Maybe that's it
I say: You're website sucks. You suck. $#*! you prick.
He says: At least we can figure out how to do simple things
Yes. Our website sucks
That's why we are no. 1
70,000 transactions and growing because we suck
I see you can't process logic either
I guess you are just too smart for simple things
What's you MENSA number?
You might want to check this out
http://sedaliamamas.com/methaffectsthebrain.htm
Another email 4 minutes later with the same website:
http://sedaliamamas.com/methaffectsthebrain.htm
Another email one minute later:
http://sedaliamamas.com/methaffectsthebrain.htm
Statistically speaking 3% of all customers are idiots or $#*!s.
They shouldn't be allowed to buy anything... at anytime... from anyone...
If you are one of the 3% then please go buy elsewhere
We don't want your business.
We don't have time for you.
We are busy giving our customers great customer service.
Go read about you here
Again sends the same email within the same minute:
Statistically speaking 3% of all customers are idiots or $#*!s.
They shouldn't be allowed to buy anything... at anytime... from anyone...
If you are one of the 3% then please go buy elsewhere
We don't want your business.
We don't have time for you.
We are busy giving our customers great customer service.
Go read about you here
Three minutes later:
"We proactively go after good customers, which is the best defense against the bad guys," says John Taylor, vice president of global strategy and marketing. "We avoid the 'victim approach' to spray and pray marketing that many take and later lament when they have acquired disloyal customers who want the moon but are unwilling to pay for it. We have designed all of our systems and processes around the best customers as opposed to penalizing best customers by making rules around the non-loyal customers."
Bad customers can cost you money easily. Anyone who has had a difficult customer to deal with knows this. You can spend countless hours working with a customer and you lose money out of it. This is why it's so important to pre-qualify your customers. John Taylor CTO Global Media
"Choosing the customers you want to do business with"
Professor John M. Taylor
Are you bad for business?
How bad customers cost you money
Save customer service for customers
Why the "customer is always right" is wrong
JFC Customer Reviews
WHY THERE ARE BAD CUSTOMERS
My response once I checked my email:
Hahaha! That's funny! Thanks for the entertainment. My visa better not get charged. Why the $#*! would you ask
Me for a MC or interact when I gave you my visa info. Its $#*!ed up. Quit harassing me now please. You are an Idiot who obviously is not a nice person. Karma will find you. Have a nice life. END//
His reply:
Yo DUMB $#*!
We sent you payment OPTIONS
We didn't realize you don't know how to read
We didn't know you don't know what the word options means
Try this Option | Define Option at Dictionary.com
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So sorry
Stop buying shirts go buy a reading class
We don't "charge" $#*!-for-brains"
It's obvious you have to "pay"
If you paid then your card will be charged. If you didn't pay then it won't
Hard to figure since you are too $#*!ing stupid to know
So how do you expect us to know?
My reply:
I'm going to re-post all the transactions I made and hoops I had to go through and all your great "customer service" responses. I will make this my mission. Have a nice day.
His reply:
Yes go ahead $#*!ing idiot
Waste more of your useless life
Get off the meth and learn to read
No wonder nobody loves you.
AND then, a few minutes later:
Why the $#*! would you give out your visa info?
Are you really that $#*!ing stupid?
And 6 minutes later:\We also sent you one called VISA
And one INTERAC
So you could choose which payment method you wanted
My reply: Wow. You don't have a $#*!ing clue how your website operates, do you?
His response: Hmmm
No idea
I just know I make more money in the first hour of each day than you make all month
And then, 2 minutes later:
It's called process dumb $#*!
I make money while I eat, take a $#*! or sleep
Someone like you wouldn't understand what that's like
To $#*!ing stupid to figure out how to make real money
And to $#*!ing busy kissing your bosses $#*! or sucking his $#*!
To make any money END//
THIS IS THE PERSON/WEBSITE YOU ARE DEALING WITH. PLEASE PASS THIS AROUND AND MAKE SURE THIS GUY GETS THE REPUTATION HE DESERVES.
DON'T BUY FROM HERE!
I was about to place an order from this site, but read the reviews here and changed my mind. Here are the series of emails between myself and "John"... the professionalism of this man speaks for itself.
"Sir,
After reading many reviews of your site, I have decided NOT to complete my purchase with your company.
You may cancel my order.
Thank you,
DXXX XXXXXXS
His first response:
"Haha
You make me laugh
How many complaints out of over 70,000 transactions over 7 years?
That's what I thought
Read these too
http://www.jerseysfromchina.org/Jerseys_from_China_Reviews.html"
My response to this:
"Sir,
I didn't mean to insult you with that email. Here are some things to consider, though:
1. Making a payment on your website is very out of the ordinary as far as American standards go. With online scamming at large, waiting for an email that then directs you to another website... that then asks for all your personal information again along with a "remark" code seems odd to me. I purchase many things online and have never once been prompted to do as your site does. Even your email address is very unrecognizable to Americans.
2. The only positive reviews I can find of JerseysFromChina are from your own website. I am not saying this is necessarily what you did, but let's face it... you could've faked every one of those buyer reviews. When I searched the internet for third-party reviews of your site, I found nothing but negative ones.
3. Your question of "******* transactions over 7 years", unfortunately, means absolutely nothing to me because I do not know if this is a fact or not. There isn't proof anywhere of these ******* transactions and, given points #1 and #2 above, makes it hard to believe. I have no way of knowing how many complains you have had over the last 7 years, now do I? "That's what I thought"...
Regardless, I thank you for your personal response. Honestly, I really wanted to buy from your site, but too many factors made me feel uneasy about doing so"
And lastly, his reply:
"Sorry but everything you said is wrong
There are other factors to consider. Too many to go into but is you send me 2000 USD I can write you a report about it.
Go buy from nfl.com and pay 300 usd
You don't know $#*! about human nature either
When I am happy doing business with some one
I email them and let them know
When I am unhappy, I go find a $#*! web site and whine
Anyway. You shouldn't spend 50 bucks ( your life savings) on a shirt
Go invest it somewhere you might need it later
Anyway
Statistically speaking 3% of all customers are idiots or $#*!s.
They shouldn't be allowed to buy anything... at anytime... from anyone...
If you are one of the 3% then please go buy elsewhere
We don't want your business.
We don't have time for you.
We are busy giving our customers great customer service."