AmericanVIN

Got an e-mail from person named Sam to sign up for discountvin.com vs Carfax. Don't respond like I did - if they are legit the Craiglist e-mail relay will work. "Is your ride still for sale? I'd like to talk to you. Not all of my CL messages have been making it through for some reason.

If you can, please email me direct at my personal account -

SamRuck53(at|Gmail)

Talk to you soon.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone"

Whether this company is legit or not they certainly engage in very questionable practices. You'll get a legitimate sounding email from someone on Craigslist asking you questions about a car you have for sale. When you respond with an answer you'll get a reply that says, do you have a VIN report? If not try these guys (Americanvin) I've used them before etc... This wastes consumers time and is just straight unethical. I can't imagine why anyone would do business with a company that engages in practices like this when there are so many others that provide the same service.

These guys troll auto trader and Craigslist for business instead of paying for legitimate advertising and building their business on good practice. Who cares about how it compares to Carfax if you're cheating your way through.

Don't be fooled when someone responds to a Craigslist ad with interest in your vehicle and then immediately responds with how you should get your VIN report from some company for cheaper than Carfax.

Car seller beware! Unsecured website only a few months old trying to sell $20 car reports. discountvin.com. Don't do it!

Im currently selling a car, and a prospective buyer (*******@gmail.com) first wanted to contact me via his gmail address rather than using the Craigslist messaging method, claiming he was having problems with the Craigslist method. He then asked about a vehicle report, and referred me to a site claimed to be cheaper than CarFax. The site (discountVIN.com) redirected to AmericaVIN.com. I checked both websites, and found they were less than a month old. This scam directs you to a website created by the buyer to get your credit card info. Dont fall for this one!

Don't use this service. This site was used to scam my parents. The credit card entry will fail because they are just using the form to skim your card info.

Stay away! The positive 5 start reviews are completely fake.

I listed a car on Craigslist and someone purporting to be an interested buyer contacted me about the car. Buyer said he wanted to see a vehicle inspection report and, of course, "suggested" that I use Americanvin.com.

Received an email saying somebody was very interested in the vehicle we were selling in craigslist saying that they needed a vehicle history report from this company to move forward. Totally bogus after reading this review confirmed what I thought.

Hi Kim G. Same thing just happened to me however, he used the name, *******@gmail.com. And the message was the same, word for word. Sure appreciate you sharing. People can look up Vin #'s for free anyway. Thanks again.
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I don't know for sure if this is a scam or not but I'm suspicious because I received an email inquiry to my For Sale add on Craigslist which implied that the sender was interested in buying my truck. I replied with phone # and address info and the sender replied by asking if I had a DiscountVin.com report on the truck, and then went on to tell me how great DiscountVin is, how it's less expensive than CarFax, blah, blah, blah.

I almost fell for it but before I ordered the DiscountVin report I searched for reviews and found that others had had exactly the same experience. Viewed in that light all the 5 Star reviews sound like they came from shills.

I had a similar experience to Mr. John C. Below... if your buyers ask you for a report, suggest you get it from a reputable site not from the one they suggest. Or if you're comfortable sharing your VIN then you can suggest that they get the report themselves. Here's another one that probably is a scam too (stay away): carvinleaks.com this was suggested by another "interested buyer"

I just received the same email. Aaking if my car was still available then an instant email about this website Glad I checked this out.

This is the spam sent to me:

Hello, I was reaching out to you about your vehicle for sale. Do you have a current vehicle history report for it? If not, I suggest getting one at:
www.VinCheckPass. Com

When I was selling my car I got one from there to show people that were interested. It was only $19 which is half the cost of Carfax($40 or more). It will show if there are any issues with it. The peace of mind it gives for such a large sale is a bonus too.

It will verify that it has not been in any bad accidents, that it has a clean title and that it has not been stolen. There are so many scams out there. People are more likely to look at a vehicle with a report provided.

Talk to you soon. Thanks!

Soliciting private party sellers on craigslist and trying to get your credit card info. Do not use.

5 star reviews are FAKE! Soliciting private party sellers on craigslist and trying to get your credit card information. Pay attention to the honest reviews.

The email template goes like this
"Is your ride still for sale? I saw your ad on CL. I am trying to get in touch with you.

Craigslist mail has not been going through consistently for me for some reason? Lets make sure we can connect. Please message me direct at my personal email:

SamRuck52(at)Gmail(dot)c0m

Talk to you soon. Thanks."

Next email sent immediately after-

"Hello, I was reaching out to you about your vehicle for sale. Do you
Have a current vehicle history report for it? If not, I suggest
Getting one at:
Www. DiscountVin. Com

When I was selling my car I got one from there to show people that
Were interested. It was only $19 which is half the cost of Carfax($40
Or more). It will show if there are any issues with it. The peace of
Mind it gives for such a large sale is a bonus too.

It will verify that it has not been in any bad accidents, that it has
A clean title and that it has not been stolen. There are so many scams
Out there. People are more likely to look at a vehicle with a report
Provided.

Talk to you soon. Thanks!"

Got the same strange email. Did some research and it seems like a scam.

Original message:

Is your ride still for sale? I'd like to talk to you. Not all of my CL messages have been making it through for some reason.

If you can, please email me direct at my personal account -

TedKurt97 {atGMAILdotcom}

Talk to you soon.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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When I replied, received this email almost instantly, which makes it even more suspicious.

Hello, I was reaching out to you about your vehicle for sale. Do you
Have a current vehicle history report for it? If not, I suggest
Getting one at:
Www. DiscountVin. Com

When I was selling my car I got one from there to show people that
Were interested. It was only $19 which is half the cost of Carfax($40
Or more). It will show if there are any issues with it. The peace of
Mind it gives for such a large sale is a bonus too.

It will verify that it has not been in any bad accidents, that it has
A clean title and that it has not been stolen. There are so many scams
Out there. People are more likely to look at a vehicle with a report
Provided.

Talk to you soon. Thanks!

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I would recommend avoiding it!

They comb Craigslist under the name of "Jim Kern *******@gmail.com" and say they want to get in touch about the vehicle you have for sale on craigslist. Once you reply they point you to www.VinCheckPass.com which forwards to AmericanVin. So dishonest. If you do a whois and conduct some research on this company you should quickly make the determination not to do business with them.

----First Email---

Trying to get in touch with you regarding your vehicle for sale, but I have not heard from you.

Please message me direct at my personal email to discuss - JimKern56{at\Gmail\dotc0m} Thanks.

---Second Email---
"Hello, I was reaching out to you about your vehicle for sale. Do you have a current vehicle history report for it? If not, I suggest getting one at:
www.VinCheckPass. Com

When I was selling my car I got one from there to show people that were interested. It was only $19 which is half the cost of Carfax($40 or more). It will show if there are any issues with it. The peace of mind it gives for such a large sale is a bonus too.

It will verify that it has not been in any bad accidents, that it has a clean title and that it has not been stolen. There are so many scams out there. People are more likely to look at a vehicle with a report provided.

Talk to you soon. Thanks!

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To echo Kevin K's "Dishonest marketing strategies" & PP's "unscrupulous practice" reviews, I went through the same thing. If they need to trick people into getting the report, I don't trust them and would rather pay the 40$ to carfax. Got my email from "*******@gmail.com" The first one said, " Trying to get in touch with you regarding your vehicle for sale, but I have not heard from you.
Please message me direct at my personal email to discuss -
KenTrip75(at/Gmail/dot/c0m)
Thanks." Making me think I had a potential buyer. I responded with an apology as sometimes emails get misfiled and my phone number. The second, more detailed email after the come one said this, "

Hello, I was reaching out to you about your vehicle for sale. Do you have a current vehicle history report for it? If not, I suggest getting one at:
www.VinCheckPass. Com.
When I was selling my car I got one from there to show people that were interested. It was only $19 which is half the cost of Carfax($40 or more). It will show if there are any issues with it. The peace of mind it gives for such a large sale is a bonus too.
It will verify that it has not been in any bad accidents, that it has a clean title and that it has not been stolen. There are so many scams out there. People are more likely to look at a vehicle with a report provided.
Talk to you soon. Thanks!" I replied, "Can't you just say, Hey - I see you have a vehicle for sale, we offer the same service as Carfax at half the price & we are JUST AS GOOD as Carfax. No? Is VinCheck not as good as Carfax?. Since this feels like tricking me into using the service, I'd rather pay double to Carfax who doesn't feel the need to trick people. Shame on you."

Listed my vehicle on Craigslist and already two "potential buyers" suggested me to use AmericanVin:

"Hey,

Do you have a vehicle history report that I can take a peek at? If you
Do not have it already, then you can find it from here as well:
http://americanvin.net its extremely cheaper than AutoCheck and
Will save you about 20 dollars.

I am dealing on craigslist for the very first time so really want to
Be sure that everything is okay with your vehicle before I construct
My final decision. I hope youll comprehend my problem.

Regard

And second one:

"Do you have a+current vehicle history report available? It will show if there are any major problems with it. If you do+not have one I suggest getting one here:
http://americanvin.net - I have_used them in the past when I was selling a vehicle and it was half the price of Carfax (only $19 - Carfax_charges $40 or more for a report).

I have heard of people getting^scammed on Craigslist. Honestly, an official report is a good selling point for any potential buyer that^may contact you. It will verify that it has not been in any bad accidents, that it has a clean title*and that it has not been stolen. There are so many scams on Craigslist.

Shoot me a message when you get it so that I can*take a look at it. I work odd hours, so please bare with me - sometimes I cannot respond immediately. Talk to=you soon. Thanks!"

Be aware and don't pay any money!

Craigslist VIN Scam - greatful I used PayPal to make the VIN report purchase!

I have a cars for sale at Craigslist. A potential buyer requested a VIN remort and provided the web address below - the last report I was requested to get had the name AmericanVIN.com in the customer area.

A second person looking at the same vehicle als requested a VIN report (and indicated the one I posted with the vehicle was not good enough) and sent me to; http://coat.ironcladnow.club which redirected me to http://checkoutvin.com/ which has the very same report that I made available to them.

This is checkoutvin. Coms sample VHR: http://checkoutvin.com/reports/JN8AR07S7XW*******.pdf

The page also includes a reseller name: Alex Partridge.

This is my first report: http://www.successbyintention.com/_download/Full_WBAEB8402D*******.pdf

As you can see they are Identical.

So, my take is that the perpetrator has an account with a redirect url to checkoutvin. Com and make all or a percentage of the sales.

Hmm: Guess what? http://www.scamner.com/check/checkoutvin.com

They are getting famous!

http://www.scamvoid.com/check/checkoutvin.com

Hosted at Hostgator is also a tell-tale sign. I know those guys; yea I know what they do.

Twice now and from two different fake Gmail accounts, I got the following (plus 3rd party payment page!):

"I am very interested. Do you have a current vehicle history_report available? It will show if there are any major problems with it. If you do not_have one I suggest getting one here:
http://americanvin.net - I have used_them in the past when I was selling a vehicle and it was half the price of Carfax (only $19 - Carfax charges $40 or more_for a report).

I have heard of people getting-scammed on Craigslist. Honestly, an official report is a good selling point for any potential buyer that-may contact you. It will verify that it has not been in any bad accidents, that it has a clean title-and that it has not been stolen. There are so many scams on Craigslist.

Shoot me a message when you+get it so that I can take a look at it and make arrangements. I work odd hours, so please bare with me - sometimes I cannot+respond immediately. Talk to you soon. Thanks!"