6 reviews for Abf Heaven are not recommended
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GB
1 review
8 helpful votes

Quality has dropped severly past 12 months
December 3, 2023

This website has become a toxic and dangerous place over the past year.
This is all encouraged by the admin of the site who is an awful man easily manipulated and controlled by a small gang of horrible old crones.

Lots of good people left and the rest have been deleted by the admin on the orders of a small coven of hags and the dumb men under their thrall.
The admin and his little gang of trash are helping to cultivate a particular culture on the website...in the chat room, they are holding things like group video masturbation sessions, constant titillation which whips these dumb men with no self control into a perverted frenzy. Its fine for the witches who do this to farm compliments and attention, but beyond this, they are emboldening these men to treat all other ladies on the site (and probably IRL) with no respect and as objects, a pair of tits and nothing else.
The worst thing is, the admin and these hags have been told what they are doing, people are desperate for the admin to make things right, but he is a part of this group of dumb men under the thrall of the hags so instead, he just deletes anyone bringing up concerns of how the site has fallen deeper and deeper into being a toxic pit of filth for the whores to farm attention.
Im not sure which is more pathetic...the 'women' who know exactly what they're doing or the adult man children being so easily led on by these tarts. Its not even like these women are worth it - below average, overweight, saggy, personality vacuums...these men are just so lonely, so desperate, so thirsty that they will sit in a chat room 24/7 to awkwardly try and flirt with these witches who do nothing but lead them on.

The admin has said he wants to step back and hand the website over, this was months ago now, a few people handed their names in and things looked like they might get better, someone with some brains in charge but now it looks like the admin is deliberately trying to tank his own website, its a shame he has allowed himself to become a pathetic cuck to a handful of trashy whores.

95% of people on the site keep themselves to themselves but like ANY internet community, the loud minority have to go ruin it for everyone else. If you are a pseudo-intellectual who likes to flirt awkwardly via boomer emoji use then you will fit right in with the detestable excuses for humans who spend 24/7 in the main chat

Date of experience: December 3, 2023
GB
1 review
9 helpful votes

What happened to this place?
October 26, 2023

Seriously, what happened to this place?
5 years ago it had a completely different vibe, the feel of a proper community with no toxic or predatory atmosphere.
Today? Well, its a mixture of low IQ predatory men and narcissist matriarchs telling everyone else how to act. A lot of good people who were a big part of the community have left recently, for similar and different reasons.
This huge Exodus is purely down to the current clientele. Almost like the site has become too big. Now its full of disingenuous males looking for an easy fix for being horny and cheap whores who get kicks for throwing their images to the dogs.

As has been pointed out in other reviews, a big problem and breeding ground for this is the chat room on the front page. (the first thing you are forced to look at when you log into the website)...you can come on here anytime of the day and you will see the same selection of names and faces without fail. There are about 2-3 'main' females who seemingly spend all of their miserable life in this chat room and all they do is farm compliments and likes and praise from the same '10-15' pathetic, desperately needy men who will type and say anything, with no shame, if it means they might get to see ONE picture of a pair of boobs...as if there arent infinitely easier ways to do this.
I dont know if im more disgusted by these desperate, cringe men and the stuff they say or the horribly narcissistic (and usually already married) women who lead these losers on. (and to be fair, you can see why they need to farm the compliments...you've never seen such pigs)

If it was up to me:
A) the chat room would be hidden away to its own dark corner of the site where these losers who have nothing better going on in their life can all congregate. At the moment its front and center when you visit the site. Such a bad turn off for new people too.
B) about 50% of the male profiles would be purged, most are there for a cheap thrill, not actually interested in ANR and its so obvious from the way they speak and the contents of their profiles that they are not serious.
C) I would be far harsher to some female profiles, these really loud and mouthy ones who try to run the place, who lead on all these sad, lonely men to make themselves feel better would be purged too. Open an only fans if you so desperately need validation from horny men who wont even think about you once theyve shot their load.
D) I would update the look of the website which has always looked basic as hell. Seriously it looks like its from the late 90s.

There is ONE...yes ONE admin for the whole website. I would feel bad for him since its hard to moderate a huge number of people. But at the same time, why not hire at least one person to help you moderate, keep people safe and get rid of bad actors.

Date of experience: October 26, 2023
GB
1 review
12 helpful votes

Meh... sick of the clique
January 27, 2023

(edit - One of the main bullies of the clique (names begins with a J) who often chastises men for asking why women block them without even saying a word - (she will bully anyone who makes a new forum thread about this topic) - has, without ANY irony, just asked a man why he blocked her. You can't make this crap up, im so SICK of the hypocritical, loser old bullies on this trashy website making one rule for them and making everyone else feel uncomfortable so she can feel like she has ANY kind of power in her pathetic, vapid life)

Do you know what? A year ago I would have given this website a glowing review.
And at its most basic it gets the job done - you can search for people close to you and freely send messages and connect.
But this past 6-12 months everything feels different and its down to one reason: a growing clique of bullies who completely dominate the website, throwing their weight around and harassing other members who want nothing to do with their pathetic group. The one and only admin (who does nothing to bring the site into the 21st century - it looks like it was made in 1999) is also part of the bullying group and he has no shame in using his power to commit the will of the clique. Just recently a lady had her account deleted and it was 100% down to bullying and harassment - I hate this is how the site has become now.
It's the same names that come up as the bullies over and over again. You can't miss them because they seemingly spend all their free time on the chat (which is forced on you via the front page) and all they do is the ladies say something obvious and with no substance and the pathetic lapdog men who are desperate to be noticed shower them in compliments and exclamation marks and emojis.
This actually wouldnt annoy me so much - if these people were young adults, but these are all boomer men and women who are 50+ that are cringe as all hell to read their comments and awkward humour and flirting. Also these same old crones love to spam the chat with horrible pictures - so if you like seeing old women feet, or saggy tits, or fat limbs then you will love it, like the group of thirsty old men who throw so much fake praise onto these bullies.

The site is a steaming pile of garbage these days, and its getting worse, especially as the only admin is now part of that clique and continues to grift money off members and then not put it into making the site look like its actually from this century.

Tip for consumers:

block anyone who is a regular in the main chat, they are one or usually ALL of the following: a boomer, a bully, painfully unfunny, can't hold any sort of conversation other than very surface level, hard to stomach innuendo, constantly putting up links to garbage music and worst of all, just massive hypocrites.

Date of experience: January 27, 2023
GB
1 review
16 helpful votes

I am disgusted by the bullying
January 21, 2023

EDIT2: what this joke of a site desperately needs in order to get back to when it was good: the old, white, overweight american women need to step the hell back and stop trying to constantly be in the spotlight - so bored of hearing these cackling crones talk about things only to do the opposite of what they preach the next day. Bunch of horrible hypocrites, spending all their time farming attention off the boomer men in the chat room - honestly go and have a read of their conversations, its pathetic low effort garbage - no wonder most of the chat clique are old and with no real relationship status, who the hell would want to be with these people except other NPCs. No one wants to see your disgusting, old, overweight body parts plastered on the front page everytime they log in, at least quarantine these utter losers to their own chat room deep somewhere within the site, not on the front bloody page. Absolute joke

EDIT: today the admin threatened to delete a user who is being bullied and harassed by the horrible main chat gang for seemingly no reason...what the hell. I can't believe all the drama on this site is created by the OLDEST people on there and the useless admin when you'd expect it to be the younger, less mature ones.
The admins exact words (and bear in mind this was all done publicly in the main chat):
"person being bullied...im waiting...i will check back in 5 mins...i want an explanation and an apology from you...your accoutn will be removed otherwise. Guaranteed. I dont allow anyone to threaten me or my site. Go ahead"
Ok Hitler, calm down. Imaging using your position within the site to threaten and coerce members, handing out ultimatums and (like mentioned in another review here) stealing content from the women of the site before deleting their accounts. Absolutely disgusting, Michael Admin is a spineless little weasel of a man

I am an older lady, wanting to use this website to find friends and a partner but what I have witnessed over the year or so I've been there is disgusting.
You would think a small and niche community like this would come together and lift each other up but what I have seen is the complete opposite. Now, im not talking about the majority of the userbase here but the same 10-20 names that come up over and over again, the same names that dominate the chat, the same names that I have seen pile on and bully certain members who speak their mind or go against the will of the main chat. It makes everyone else not want to engage in the chat or forums because its full of BULLIES.
The worst thing is these bullies are 90% women who recruit the dumbest of the men on the site to follow their orders and join them in the disgusting harassment...these are all people who are 50+...acting like children.
On top of that, the admin of the website seems to just laugh when people point out the harassment and bullying, he laughs and tells them to get over it...what kind of moderation is that? Does he want this site to slip further into being an absolute hell hole of the same narcissistic members bullying and harassing everyone else out of the website?
Eventually its just going to be these same 7 or 8 old, spiteful women who are absolutely past it and their loyal lapdogs consisting of the same 14 or 15 old, spineless men who are what we call 'useful idiots' all engaging in their brand of really hard to stomach flirting and constant innuendo and unfunny 'jokes' and thousands of exclamation marks and emojis, from people supposed to be my age. It's very depressing that these people are acting like this, like children and its even more depressing to see them being hypocrites and engaging in the very things they bully others for. Something needs to be done about them because 90% of the people on that site are good people and are now too scared to even use the forums or chat

Date of experience: January 21, 2023
GB
1 review
16 helpful votes

Its free
January 1, 2023

(edit!) - I had to come back to make an edit, I need to change this from a 2 star to a 1 star...over the past couple of months this website has turned into a DUMP. The front page has been absolutely taken over by a very nasty clique of old witches and their loyal spineless men. All they do is spend all day farming attention off the thirsty men (who come out with the most cringe responses) and then hating on anyone who isnt part of their clique. They create hypocritical forum posts calling people out for things they themselves do...i HATE what this site has become because of these people and the spineless men who enable them just so they can have some kind of interaction with a female and delude themselves into thinking these people are their friends. This is all bang right in the middle of the front page for some reason, 99% of the site doesnt want to see this when they log in - the other 1% spending all their free time on the main chat to farm attention.
Im bored of the bullying, im bored of the cringe flirting, im bored of the hypocricy, im bored of seeing body parts of fat, old crones with awful tattoos and disgusting skin, im bored of how this little internet community has been completely taken over by these loudmouth morons and is totally enabled by the one admin who cant run this site for toffee

The website is ok, it's the best ABF 'dating' site around and its free - but you get what you pay for (ancient looking site, bugs, creeps and weirdos).

You have the option of spending a very questionable $25 on getting 'verified' by the one admin...which gives you a blue tick after your name, no other website privileges or upgrades. Easy money for the admin since all the idiots on the site think having the tick means something.

It has a chat room for people to talk with each other which sounds great but the problem is it's populated by about the same 15-20 boomers and the boring conversations are all steeped in so much cringe innuendo and fake praise (and hundreds of '!') for each other, its not even worth joining in. Unfortunately this is slapped right on the front page for no reason, so everytime you log in you get to have a laugh at the dire conversations and awful attempts at flirting/being funny.

Overall, its ok but could be made way better with a few easy changes. Unfortunately it seems the one admin has no vision for an improved site and is happy grifting the money for pointless blue ticks.

Date of experience: January 1, 2023
Virginia
1 review
12 helpful votes

The main reason people like the site.It's free
January 1, 2023

The site is a free site, which makes it so that anyone can join and send messages, which make it having a lot of members, but it seems most just join and leave and never post personals or use the forums, and since it doesn't show the last time someone has accessed the site in their profile you have no idea if they are still active or not when you view their profile, this also lets a lot of scammers, picture collectors and people that just want to do sexting and timewaster types to join the site and send messages, so there is a lot of issues with that. And it reflective in the site forum posts. A lot of the post is about being ghosted or being blocked by other members, both female and male members have posted about this in the site forum quite a bit.

Since this isn't a business there are no terms and conditions or agreements, privacy statements, refund statement, nothing at all spelling out the site responsibilities and duties to it members, something you'll find on all the ANR/ABF sites that are ran like a true business.

No one is verified when they join the site, the only people that get the verified tag are those that make a donation.

As written in a previous post this site isn't a business it's a passion project to meet women since the site owner originally was on another site that was shut down, he started this site to replace the other site, the one thing I found about sites that start as passion project by men usually don't last once the owner passion fades, or they get a S.O.

The other moderators of the site are female site members, so not sure how fairly moderations are done, but it seems a lot of the guys have had issues getting banned if you didn't prescribe to a particular viewpoint or took issue with the way they view some of the women comments in the forums.

The forums are active but it's usually the same people posting. And sometimes the post made are a lot of fantasy scenarios written by fanboys about lactation fantasies.
While I'm still a member of the site, I only use it now to view the comments in the forum. Trying to meet people not so much anymore. Got tired of being hit up by people doing solicitations for wet nurse services, or just the give me money to see me messages.

Features and Updates:
Compared to some sites, it doesn't have many members features, just the same as you would find standard on any similar site, so nothing stands out. Doesn't get a lot of updates.

Now if you just like a site where you like to post in the forums a lot and don't want to use a site that have paid memberships, you may like the site, but free doesn't mean you get top features and services and there nothing that makes you stand out from the pack besides the verified tags you get when you make a donation but that's about it.

As far as meeting people, the jury's still out for that one, but by viewing the post in the forums, maybe not so much happy time.

Tip for consumers:

Take it as it is, not topflight but not totally bargain basement either, if you think paying for a membership is not your thing, this will be a better fit, but you'll have to deal with all the issues of a free site.

Date of experience: January 1, 2023
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